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Matt Taylor coming to you from the railing of the Golden Gate Bridge.
Tough loss for the 49'ers last night (or an hour ago, because I'm using this gameday to get over the pain of a gut-wrenching loss that shouldn't have happened), but we move on. Feel terrible for Kyle Williams (especially the way he's being treated on twitter), but the 49'ers also had chance after chance to put it away and the offense couldn't get it done. Can't put this one on him entirely.
But hey, this is a hockey blog, right? So let's talk about hockey.
Goddammit, that's not any better. Sharks coming off a loss to the hated Vancouver Canucks, giving up the game winning goal just seconds after they tied the game with a few minutes left. Saturday and Sunday were not great days for Bay Area sports fans.
Hard to step off the ledge right now (don't worry, I'm sitting on my couch in reality), but the Sharks have a great chance to heal the wounds of the weekend with a win in Edmonton tonight. On an 0-2 stretch where they allowed four goals in both losses, San Jose needs a big game to get themselves back on track.
Playing Edmonton gives them that opportunity, as they're one of the worst teams in the NHL this season... again. While the Oilers have some great young talents in Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, and Jordan Eberle, all of them are dealing with some sort of injury trouble this year. Taylor Hall is just coming back from a scary, but thankfully not so severe, skate cut to the face that he suffered during warmups a few days ago. The slice resulted in 30 stitches on his left forehead, and it doesn't look too pretty. Still, in an impressive showing of heart, he suited up for Edmonton's 6-2 loss to the Calgary Flames on Sunday. Like him or not, that's a huge show of guts. What a player.
Jordan Eberle is back in action after missing games with an apparent knee injury, but is having an all-star season with 44 points in 43 games. The third player, number one overall pick Nugent-Hopkins, hasn't played since January 2nd with a shoulder injury.
That was a long, run-on about three Oilers players, one of which won't even be playing. Unfortunately, especially for Edmontonians, those have been the only three players worth talking about. Ales Hemsky, who has been the focus of recent trade rumors, hasn't performed as expected... well, I guess it's expected that he was going to get injured at some point, and he was, so that counts. 34 games for Hemsky this year, and just 17 points. Not exactly the swan song that fans wanted to see from the skilled winger.
Injuries have been one problem for the Oilers, but the defense might be just as worrisome. They're 22nd in goals allowed despite some decent netminding by Nikolai Khabibulin, and look to be spiraling out of control. Guessing that their next high pick will be spent on a defenseman. Just a hunch.
Moral of the story, the Sharks should have little trouble with Edmonton tonight. Still, San Jose has had issues with playing down to their competition in recent years, and this game could end up a trap game for the Sharks, especially with all of their injuries. It's an important two points.
Prediction: Sharks win 5-2 with Greiss in net. Goals by McGinn (2x), Couture, Burns and Demers, who scores when a puck bounces off his hair in the press box.
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A back to back on a Mon & Tue
then 6 days off (except for Cooch & TMC). The players better practice during that time.
Not being a football fan (of either type), I still feel bad for the fans of the 49ers. Sounds like a f***-up lost the game for them. Sort of like the Sharks. Or even the Warriors (not a basketball fan either) last second f***-up to lose their game vs Ind.
I am glad that the Bay Area fans are civilized, and didn’t pull a Vanc after the 49ers oust.
That being said, the Sharks lost an embarrassing performance to Edm last year about this time. I’m hoping the Sharks have a glut of goals in these games against Edm & Calg, before the break. Us fans need to be happy again!
After the break, the Sharks end Feb with a game vs Colum, then start Mar with games against Dal, Phx, and Calg,…
If, by any chance, someone is really down about the loss(es), and might ponder self-harm, talk about it, even on FTF, even if only as a release. There are a lot of caring folks here who can help you, and/or point you in the right directions to overcome.
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
"Something's gotta give." --Drew Remenda (mumbled under breath on the air)
by Soloact on Jan 23, 2012 3:48 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
What kind of miserable human being would kill themselves over sports?
That’s not even a good reason.
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Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
You never know
It might be the trigger that puts an already-depressed person over the edge. Any negative thing could do it. If one is depressed, the one might not be in a state of mind to overcome the depression, and might resort to anything to relieve the feeling. Anything.
I think there was already a long thread on depression several months ago.
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
"Something's gotta give." --Drew Remenda (mumbled under breath on the air)
Please god no, not this shit again.
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by ievans on Jan 23, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That's why
I mentioned that it was already debated, so as to stop it from going on and on.
Please folks, we all have our thoughts on the matter, and expressed them in the past. Let the debate stop here. Take it to an OT post if folks want to continue on the subject.
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
"Something's gotta give." --Drew Remenda (mumbled under breath on the air)
to all niner's fans
I’m so sorry about the loss, and I’m sorry that a harbaugh brother super bowl isn’t in the cards this year… instead, we’re treated to a super bowl rematch… not quite sure who to root for, actually. I don’t hate Brady like some people do, but I rooted for Eli last time around, so… (no conclusions yet).
Like soloact, I’m not exactly a football fan, and only sort of a niner’s fan (grew up in a Raider’s household). That said, it will still be a bit difficult going about my routine the next few days… go figure.
Well, back to hockey. C’est la vie. Go Sharks! (putting a happy face on how I feel).
Really? Raidershark likes Oakland? :P
Don’t worry though, the Superbowl will be Oakland vs. San Fran next year… Even if it’s not possible with the AFC and UFC or whatnot.
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Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
F*** Everything
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
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by ElvisVF101 on Jan 23, 2012 5:05 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
^ agree
Boy that was a tough weekend to stomach
by Justboo on Jan 23, 2012 5:41 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Everything?
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Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Just an aside here. Gary Oldman is fan fucking tastic in “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy” playing someone about as far away from this guy above as you can possibly get.
Everyone should see this movie, and I mean everyone.
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Big picture
49ers over achieved this year. No one thought they’d finish 13-3 and make it to the NFC championship game. That said, their offense is not nearly good enough. Need to upgrade the receivers big time! Defense is a beast and will get them right back here next year. Kudos to Alex Smith for proving everyone (including myself) wrong. He was huge this year.
As for our Sharks, this is a must win tonight. If they aren’t going to beat a last place team after 2 tough losses, then perhaps there is more wrong with this group than people think? I see them responding with a sense of urgency and giving us 60 minutes of solid play.
We cannot expect LA, Dallas and Phoenix to continue to suck collectively. Sharks need to put some distance between them and their Pacific Division foes. Sharks win 5-2!!!
Yep
I’m a pretty proud 49er fan even though they pretty much blew that game! They hugely over achieved this year and w/ a couple of additions I think they can be right back there next year.
Kinda funny that both the Pats and Giants lucked their way into a superbow…and I hate Elie Manning so go Pats!!!
Oh, there’s a hockey game today? Maybe they can talk Ryan Jones into getting on their plane after the game and heading to Calgary, in return for Jones the Sharks will leave Niitty behind to keep the Bulin Wall company.
49'ers need...
At least one speed recieved (DeSean Jackson, anyone) and another corner… although I do think Culliver improves.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jan 23, 2012 8:00 AM PST up reply actions
I wouldnt say "overachieved"
Their D was THE BEST in the NFL in my opinion and like the saying goes, “D wins Championships”, at least in Football. There were many plays where you could have said if it went the other way we would have won that game. Could we have won that game and won against the Pats in the SB? YES, definitely! So in that sense (with the best D in the League) I feel the Niners got right where they were supposed to and then at this point in the season no ones a lock for the Championship (Pats 18-0 going into the 2007 Superbowl?). So I don’t think they overachieved at all and in fact had the potential to win it all. Bright future for the Niners!
On the other hand, I’d like to see the Sharks step up when it counts in the Conference Finals and I think a hot Niemi (ofcourse with some lucky bounces our way) will get us over the hump as long as Thornton and Company stay consistent and notch their game up another level come that time!
If you listen to The Drive on 95.7 (really good btw)
the topic of overachievement has come up quite a bit. I’m inclined to follow Eric Davis sentiment in which he believes it’s less the Niners overachieving, but rather the coaching has helped them realize more of their true potential. Outside of the secondary, the roster makeup isn’t that different from the team from last year, but the poaching of Stanford’s coaching staff helped players play more accordingly to their strengths and capabilities which helped them succeed.
Rated M for McGinn.
Yep
but rather the coaching has helped them realize more of their true potential.
Sharks could use more of this.
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
"Something's gotta give." --Drew Remenda (mumbled under breath on the air)
FIRE ALL OF THE COACH.
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Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
hehe
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
"Something's gotta give." --Drew Remenda (mumbled under breath on the air)
I feel a sense of unease reading this.
Please don’t lose…

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by YeahTommyB4ZGermansGetThere on Jan 23, 2012 8:06 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Done licking my Niner wounds...
Last night was brutal. While I was not one of those who blasted Williams on Twitter, the guy really did almost single handedly lose the game for us. I can go on and on why but I think everyone who really watched the game knows why. Oh well… Jim Harbaugh is the man. Took a 6-10 team to the NFC Championship Game the next season. Love that guy!
Onto the Sharks… back to backs. Hoping we can get back on track here. Oilers are hurting right now, let’s capitalize.
Sharks win 3-2. Goals by Thornton, McGinn, and Braun.
Waiting for the Cup to come to SJ since 1991...
GO SHARKS!
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Thought I would be irresponsible and spread this rumor that I saw on BoC
League sources say as many as four teams — the Rangers, Sharks, Bruins and Wings — have all made inquiries into Selanne’s availability with the trade deadline just over a month away on Feb. 27
I think that rumor came from Bruce Garrioch in which case, it’s most likely BS.
BS or not, even though I’m still annoyed w/ Teemu missing a wide open net on a wrap around and the fact he’s a Duck…I’d take him.
I’m still annoyed w/ Teemu missing a wide open net
This happened when I was like… 14, and I’m still pissed about it.
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Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Don't do it
As much as I respect Teemu, he wasn’t the same player once he became a Shark. He must’ve left his offense (goal scoring) in Anaheim. I like the Edmonton guy you’ve targeted or perhaps another smaller chip. Havlat and Clowe will be back in time for the playoffs, if not a lot sooner. I don’t want to give up more pics or young talent for a guy who is 41, even if his name is Teemu.
although intriguing
not going to happen. I just dont see Teemu going back to the Sharks again even if that might be his best possible chance of winning a cup this season. He just loves to score against the Sharks too much!
The Bay Area needs a Pick Me Up
The way the 49ers lost made me think of how the Sharks lost against the Canucks last year. At the end of each game, I just sat there shaking my head thinking of what just happend?
Time for the Sharks to take control of their season
Go Big or Go Home
by ChangoT on Jan 23, 2012 9:44 AM PST via mobile reply actions
A few things.
1. Admins don’t cry. They are robots. Know your place, AdminBot_002-MT (codename: Matthew Taylor).
2. This is going to be the most boring fucking Superbowl… Giants and Patriots? Seriously? When are some of the weirdo teams like Cleveland and Houston gonna step up and steal the spotlight? I won’t be watching this Ultracup, because the two teams playing are boring. Give me better teams for the Megafork next year, NFL.
3. Whatever happened to Magnus Paajaarvi? Is he still alive and kicking? Last I heard, he was one of Edmonton’s big stars, but that was last year.
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Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
Oh, and is Darth Vandermeer still injured?
The artist formerly know as *"Sharks_Fan_In_Toronto"*
Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
No
He was taken off IR before the Vancouver game…I’d imagine he’ll play tonight or tomorrow.
by milanahalek on Jan 23, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
How anyone can focus on hockey after the Niners game last night, I cannot understand...
This one will stick with me for a long time…finally a chance to possibly celebrate a championship for a team I love, and its fumbled away in OT. Just handed the game to the Giants. Unreal. (I don’t want to kill Kyle Williams…that is stupid…he is but a football player, and nothing should provoke that kind of hatred…ever. But he did pretty much single handedly hand the game to the Giants, so as a football fan, not sure I’ll be able to forgive him for that one).
Can’t even comment on the Sharks right now. The Niners have made me numb about sports in general, and looking forward to a Niemi-led Sharks team isn’t helping me cope. Sigh…go Sharks, I guess.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jan 23, 2012 10:26 AM PST reply actions
This is pretty much how I feel.
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Kent Huskins cares.
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There was a point in OT where the announcers were lauding how well the punters were doing, saying one bad punt could cost the team the game now. Right then, I thought “great, this game is going to end on a punt.” Close enough…
No doubt Williams had a terrible game, but that stuff happens. I was more upset when the offense became ultra-conservative after the last field goal. That’s a decision made by the coaches/Alex Smith, and it was a poor one that further proved the notion that one should play to win rather than not to lose (in the same vein, it was the reason I was more upset with WIlliam’s first mistake than the second, he should not have been near the football).
Yeah, the muff was definitely a more bone-headed play. If you’re not gonna catch the ball, just getouttheway. And since it really looked like it bounced off his knee, he shoulda made an attempt to get on it instead of feigning innocence. At least in OT, the Giants’ kicking team ripped it out of Williams hands, so credit them for that.
And for a lot of the talk of making the Giants one-dimensional, I think the flipside was better at it. Giants pass rush forced Smith to run it (which he did pretty well), but the WRs were non-existent yesterday, so the Giants secondary was definitely doing their jobs yesterday.
It stings, but watching that game and for all the limited offensive capabilities the Niners showed, the fact that they still managed to “give away” the game and be in it is a testament to that defense and Vic Fangio. If they can get the necessary upgrades at WR, the window for this team can still be wide open.
Rated M for McGinn.
Have Niittymaki play tonight
Give Niemi the night off. He needs to sit.
Go Big or Go Home
by ChangoT on Jan 23, 2012 10:53 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Nittymaki? You mean the guy in Wooster?
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Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Might be kinda hard to play Niitty
Since he’s not even with the team…but yes, let’s put all of the Sharks issues on Niemi.
by milanahalek on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Really? Or is that just a prediction?
by JBarrow on Jan 23, 2012 11:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Really
According to the twittoverse.
Winter. Time to eat fat and watch hockey. -- Margaret Atwood
by Timorous Me on Jan 23, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Really
David Pollak reported it earlier – also said Demers is in, he’s not sure which d-man is out.
by milanahalek on Jan 23, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I would guess Demers and Darth Vandermeer in, Braun and White out.
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Official song of the Sharks' late 2nd period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tcQI5EEiA
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
And if he/they win...
Why not let him have his reward of another game? If not tomorrow night, then soon after. I don’t really have a problem rewarding the hot goalie and letting the other guy rest. Unless McLellan is worried that Niemi will lose his confidence?
Here's to better play from the Murray-Burns pairing
Or seeing them split up soon. I don’t really like the pairing all that much on the surface (I don’t think Murray works as well with Burns as he did with a healthy Boyle because now you’ve got two mediocre-to-bad skaters paired together), and they haven’t passed either the eye test or the stats test since being put together. Just check out the scoring chances the past few games. Ugh.
I understand the desire to keep Boyle with Vlasic since they’ve been good together, but their pairing also seemed to coincide with Boyle’s foot healing—so maybe it’s not really necessary to keep them together.
White hasn’t looked good since returning. We’ll see about Vandermeer. Tough to get all these guys going. Ultimately, I think the best possible defense for the Sharks might be Vlasic-Boyle / Demers-Burns / Murray-Braun. Or at least that’s the best we’ve seen. I wouldn’t mind seeing Braun tried out on the left side of Burns, too.
Winter. Time to eat fat and watch hockey. -- Margaret Atwood
Burns is a fantastic skater.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jan 23, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I guess I was thinking more along the lines of speed, especially compared with Boyle—Burns is good for his size, certainly. It just seems like, for whatever reason (and it is worth having patience to see if this pairing will develop better) Burns and Murray have ended up out of position, or unable to get back into position after an offensive rush, too often these past few games.
Winter. Time to eat fat and watch hockey. -- Margaret Atwood
by Timorous Me on Jan 23, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Really? I’d say Burns is one of the best skating D-men I’ve ever seen. His positioning could be better, though.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jan 23, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
No, you’re right about him being a good skater—I think it’s just that playing with Murray has made his positioning look worse at times, and make it seem like he’s out of place or can’t make it back in time to prevent odd-man rushes.
I guess I should say that my issues aren’t with Burns; I’ve been quite pleased at his integration into the system. But I just don’t know that Murray is the best guy to play alongside him. I don’t know what the solution really is if the poor play continues, but at least the Sharks haven’t been shy this season about mixing up their defense pairings, injury-related or not, as opposed to in previous seasons.
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by Timorous Me on Jan 23, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
I just think of Burns as a BIG Dan Boyle.
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by idunno723 on Jan 23, 2012 12:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
?
Burns is a great skater. Look at his assist to Cooch in Winnipeg.
Dany Heatley=All-star.
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by dfh15 on Jan 23, 2012 1:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Tough loss for the 9ers
But you cant blame it all on Williams. they had plenty of chances, Great turnaround though, great season for them. Toast to a good run. As the cubs fans always say. “theres always next year”
Yep
1 for 13 in 3rd down conversions. 1 pass to Crabtree and 6 to Gore. The 49ers over achieved this year and made it a lot farther than anyone thought. The Saints were the best team in the NFL and yet with 5 turnovers, lost to S.F. Get Alex Smith a good receiver and get another passing, 3rd down back and we’re right back in the championship game.
My condolences...
As I live in Toronto, and it is purely a fluke that the Giants came to be my favourite NFL team (found a NYG jersey when I was a kid and got to wearing that baggy thing, somewhere along the way I decided to more or less ‘follow’ ‘em), I probably would have rather SF win the game in all honesty since I think you guys have suffered enough already, especially with the Sharks being a continual promise that breaks before being fulfilled.
At any rate, though all us would like a nice little consolation win by the Sharks tonight, the condition of the team both psychologically and injury-wise, suggests to me these last four games (the ’victory’ against the Flames being a meandering snore fest until the OT session) is only the beginning of a major slump. Is Niemi is seemingly unraveling? Also, it is very disconcerting when a couple of injuries really expose the incredible lack of depth the Sharks have regarding their offensive lines. Even with every solitary player healthy, San Jose will have to rely on a lot of very difficult, grinding sixty-minute efforts to win against the more depth-laden teams such as Chicago, Detroit, etc. Not to mention, even entering the playoffs (supposing they enter the playoffs?) relatively healthy, it will be almost inevitable to get bumps and bruises, and the depth of a team will clearly become an evident advantage during a seven game series.
However, concentrating on the ‘one game at a time’ approach, hopefully San Jose could grab a much needed couple of points, although it seems like this Alberta trip will be further punishment.
Edmonton 3 Sharks 2
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
To elaborate further...
I probably should have not said anything about following the Giants at all, maybe it seems insensitive? Sorry if it was. However, to clear things up, I follow the NFL only moderately, and being Canadian, and very specifically and especially Torontonian, it is hockey that I live and breathe. So yeah, it is not like I am a fanatic of the NFL, just come playoff time and everyone seems to follow the NFL and everyone seems to pick a team as we do not have any NFL teams of course, it just so turned out mine was NYG.
A San Jose Sharks Cup winning team would mean infinitely more to me than a win by the Giants in the Super Bowl.
Regardless, the 49ers did surprise a lot of people this year, and I can see them building on this run for next year. SF has a very venerable history, and the future seems to be looking better than last year even.
Good luck to them next year, and congratulations on resurging this year.
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
Re: Niemi
Get Planks and my thoughts on Niemi on the podcast. We both think he’s been fantastic, and I don’t know how you can fault him for 3 of the 4 Vancouver goals.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jan 23, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions
I said the same thing about the Vancouver game…you (or me or Plank) won’t be able to change the minds of people who have disliked him from day 1 and I’ve figured out it’s really pointless to even try.
by milanahalek on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Add me to this camp!
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by idunno723 on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Me too
I’d rather have Niemi than any other Sharks goalie from the presant or past (yes, that includes Nabby). Niemi will have his reward come playoff time.
I'd take Irbe
Irbe was awesome, underrated like how Vokoun was in Florida. On his game, Nabby was pretty incredible. But if we are going consistency, Niemi seems to do a pretty good job night in and night out.
For one game
Could we bring everyone back? Irbe, Larianov, Makarov, Falloon (okay, maybe not him) Nolan, Freisen, etc…I guess that would be an “old timers” game. But it would be so much fun if we could turn back the clock and pick the best guys from the past 21 years!
Whos ares the womans?
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
What's wrong with her face?
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Just an awful few days for Bay Area sports
Hopefully the Sharks get a win and don’t let this go off the railings.
Dany Heatley=All-star.
"How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?" -Jacques Plante
Randy Hahn: "He's got moves like Jagr."
by dfh15 on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
^ The truth.
This man speaks it.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
It all comes do to Physical play in my opinion
Interesting stat: Sharks are ranked 30th, LAST IN THE NHL, in hits……………………….
The Sharks are one of the biggest teams in the NHL. If you watch other games, teams like the Bruins and even average teams like Nash or Calgary, their D men box out and play way more physical in their own zone than the Sharks. Being physical is a big part of the game but I get a feeling like the Sharks are scared when it comes to a one on one battle with a guy and dont engage physically because of the risk of getting burned. WE WILL NOT GET BY TEAMS LIKE CHICAGO AND VANCOUVER unless we play physical like that. This is why I miss Rob Blake. Yes, he got beat bad sometimes by Kane and Toews in that Conference Sweep a couple years ago but he was 41 and boxed guys out infront of the net so well. Burns SHOULD be doing this with his size and strength but I feel the coaching staff is telling our guys to shy away from that and dont get caught out of position.
Teams like the Bruins beat the blackhawks and canucks because of their physical play. Yes speed and skill are very very important to winning it all too but the team that can wear and SLOW DOWN the other team has the better chance of winning. When they come play the Sharks they have an easy time GETTING INTO OUR ZONE, STANDING INFRONT OF THE NET, GETTING SHOTS THROUGH FROM THE POINTS, POUNCING ON REBOUNDS, and sometimes winning the board battles with smaller guys. Perfect example: Bolland from the blackhawks gets the assignment to shut down a much larger Joe Thornton and does it exceptionally well. We can’t win a cup like that. More hitting from everyone on the team to make the opposing players think twice before making plays against us. Vancouver and the Hawks just feel so confident they can make a play against us because we give them space to make plays and don’t punish them physically when they do! And I think this leads to our penalty kill also. Last game against the Canucks we were much better on the Kill, you know why!? Because we PRESSURED the puck carrier to make a play instead of sitting back in position waiting for THEM to MAKE a play.
C’mon boys I know you have it in you! If only TMAC would tell them to go out and start hitting…
Hitting is overrated!
Bottom 6 hitting teams in the league:
Boston,
Chicago
Edmonton
Buffalo
Nashville
San Jose
4 of those 6 teams currently sit in the top 10 in the league
woops
hit post accidently…
4 of those 6 teams currently sit in the top 10 in the league in Point percentage. Detroit also sits 23rd in the league in hits.
So 3 of the teams that are in the bottom 10 in hits are currently sitting in 1st place in their divsions.
And i didnt talk about DET
because much like they Sharks they dont emphasize physical play and aren’t regarded as a team that plays physical. yes they got guys like Kronwall like we have guys like Murray who can hit with the best of them but I’d just like to see a more physical presence from a team standpoint especially when we’re one of the biggest teams night in and night out.
True to some extent
Boston isnt in the bottom six when you add up their road and home hits BUT it’s a stat that doesn’t tell everything. Look in the playoffs when the B’s were more physical in every series they played! Being physical goes beyond just hits. Its also about one on one pressure and boxing guys out, winning the board battles. Really all it takes is ONE hit or play to change the opposing player to think twice before make a nice a play.
Fine
Than you really shouldn’t be asking the coach to tell them to go out and hit more.
Hitting is one of the worst kept stats league wide anyway.
Boston isnt in the bottom six when you add up their road and home hits
They’re #25 in the league in hits
but vancouver and boston were number 1 and 2 in the playoffs in hits.
yes they played more games than other teams in the PO but i still believe the Bruins physical play (including their hits) helped them triumph over the canucks.
Tim Thomas
Is why Boston won the cup last year.
They’re a physical team yes, but w/o Thomas in net they don’t make it out of the 1st round.
I also agree with you on that
TT is the BIGGEST reason why they won the Cup, no argument there. But as a team whos going to win it all, you need to be clicking on as many cylinders as possible and utilizing every advantage you’ve got. One potential advantage of the Sharks, their size! Use it!
There’s a reason why the Sharks are seen as one of the softest teams in the league…
Were they 1 & 2 in hits per game?
Or where they 1 & 2 in hits throughout the entire playoffs? If it’s per game, you have a point. If it’s throughout all of the games they played, they better be the highest ranked, because they played more playoff games than any other team.
But Buffalo and Edmonton are 14th in the their respective conferences.
Surely hitting has SOMETHING to do with it.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure it does
As much as it does having Anaheim, Dallas, Columbus, Phoenix in the top 5 in hitting and all out of the playoff picture.
You mean the Anaheim that's won like, six straight? :P
I think hitting is an important part of hockey, but it’s one of those quality > quantity things. I’m willing to bet those five teams are also way up there in penalty minutes… There’s smart hitting, and then there’s Ben Eager hitting.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Quality vs quantity I can get behind – I think plahying physical and hitting aren’t really the same thing.
More often than not, going for a hit just to hit is going to get the player out of position. Hitting to separate player from puck is how they should be playing and I agree, the Sharks should be doing it more.
But there is ZERO correlation between hitting and winning.
I disagree.
Knowing when to throw to affect the flow of the game is certainly a important part of hockey. But it’s just like you said – throwing hits for no reason is pretty dumb.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Hitting
It can create momentum, I didn’t say otherwise. But there’s still no correlation between hitting and winning.
I think we can both agree
that playing physical helps you win. Hitting is a component of playing physical and we both agree that the quality over the quantity of hits is more important. I’m not saying go out there and hit hit hit. Just play more physical to help out our defensive game as a whole and with our already highly skilled scoring, we’ll be even a harder team to beat.
I agree quality over quanitity
but getting back to my original points. when the Sharks have the chance to make that quality hit, more often than not they dont take it. Instead they start reaching out swinging with their sticks instead of taking the man off the puck. Thats a product of TMAC coaching and wont work against guys like vancouver and the hawks.
I do believe there is somewhat of a correlation between hitting and winning because like i said, hitting leads to other positives within a game. And hitting does indeed fall under the umbrella of playing physical which you also agree the Sharks need to do more of. Thats all I’m saying and I’m not trying to make it seem that simply more hits will win the cup for us…
but when it counts
is the playoffs. and getting into the rhythm of playing more physical over a long regular season sets you up for a nice presence in the playoffs. Sure ANA, DAL, COL, PHX arent in the playoffs but its still early to tell PLUS I wouldnt say they have the same skill as the Sharks. Bottom line is the Sharks should use every advantage they have when it comes to only 4 teams left in the playoffs. Every X factor we can use to our advantage is a plus and you need the most of it when you’re going to win the Cup.
Boston is a team constructed in that way...
they don’t have elite talent up front IMO so they have to play a physical game which they do because their team is constructed accordingly. Guys like Lucic, Horton, and Marchand are all physical and that’s ignoring bottom-6 “filler” guys like Thornton, Campbell, Paille, etc.
And on top of that, their D is very physical.
We don’t play that type of game, but teams with elite talent like Chicago, Detroit, and us don’t need to play as physical as Boston perhaps because of our higher-level talent.
Go Sharks!
Bostons just as talented
as Chicago, DET, and Vancouver I’d say. But they have those botton 6 guys like you mentioned who have even more skill than teams like us. Those guys, marchand, campbell, paille are all more threats on the ice than the Sharks bottom 6 AND THEY PLAY MORE PHYSICAL. If we’re talking about top 6 forwards then it can be argued that we have a more talented group but maybe not by much. Horton, Lucic, Berg, Seguin, etc are all just as good if not better than our top 6 AND they play physical too. They have a better total offense and team game because of that.
Perfect example
of a teams playing a physical, body-position game that makes them successful is the PITTSBURGH PENGUINS AND THE NEW YORK RANGERS! There’s others but these two teams do it very very well. Coaches emphasize playing below the hash marks and establishing body position on the puck carrier first. I’d like to see the Sharks adopt this style more, not completely because of how our systems work with our players, but more of this style and I truly believe it will help.
I've discovered that it's impossible to argue anything with people that don't have facts to back themselves up.
Because you’re always wrong, and science is the devil, etc. XD
Hurry up, game, and start, because I’m growing bored of arguing with idiots.
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Oh, and have you guys heard about the teenager from Cupertino that may have discovered a cure for cancer?
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Trying to argue with people who don't think climate change exists.
I don’t buy that whole “global warming” thing, but for a person to suggest that mankind has NO effect on the climate… it’s just absurd. I’m linking scientific studies of instances of climate change (such as Dubai spraying a chemical that forces rain, which in turn deprives east Africa of rain), and it’s met with, “Oh, you dumb leftist tree-huggers, blah blah.” It’s nothing to do with politics. I love science. ;-;
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, no, they try to make arguments, but they have no basis in fact.
“Oh, well a solar flare hit Earth, that’s why it’s hotter.”
A solar flame being more EMP than it is flamethrower. >_>;
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Regarding the Niners
That was a brutal loss, and I hate game where its rememberd for someones blunder instead of a great game winning play. What a bad way for them to be remembered this year. Nevertheless, major wr’s in the fa pool this year for them. Niners are back baby!!!
2011-2012 season= Sharktank Redemption
by kaotix on Jan 23, 2012 3:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
As for our sharks
I think Nemo needs rest more than he cares to admit. Good thing the allstar break is coming up. My prediction:
Sharks win 3-1. Tmac relizes that dejardans is not a top line guy and puts patty with the Joe’s for a rodie hat-trick.
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by kaotix on Jan 23, 2012 3:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Trade Targets
What do you think about these two players, or players with this style.
Milan Hejduk & Travis Moen
Scoring pop & PK grinder
Go Big or Go Home
by ChangoT on Jan 23, 2012 3:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Hejduk – Past his prime, couldn’t contribute much more than what our current guys do… Not worth a trade deadline pricetag.
Moen – Again, he’s getting on in years, and our PK is starting to look much better than it was earlier this year. Not a necessary piece.
The Sharks should be looking for a bona fide top 6 winger, and maybe a veteran defensive defenceman.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
And younger PK guys. And forward prospects.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Ok, how about Jeff Carter or Toumo Ruutu? The Sharks already have enough Vet Dmen.
Go Big or Go Home
by ChangoT on Jan 23, 2012 5:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't want Carter. He's signed way too long.
Ruutu is kind of a jerk but he’s a good player so maybe.
IMO I think this team could use more jerks, especially come playoff time. And Ruutu definitely can carry his own offensively.
Rated M for McGinn.
Heatley and Nabokov didn't really help. :P
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Oh.
We Ott to trade for someone on the Stars.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
So am I
Right now, the closest players on this team are maybe Clowe, McGinn, and sometimes Angry Joe. We don’t really have a jerk/pest like Burrows or Perry that really piss off opposing teams.
Rated M for McGinn.
Until our PK gets better, the last thing we need is a pest.
The way you make that work is that you allow your pest to get under the other team’s skin because you’re going to win even if they score on the power-play. You think the Canucks don’t know they’re little bitches? Or when the Ducks won the Cup? They don’t care, as long as they’re frustrating you into taking retaliatory penalties and getting you off your game and running up the score.
Picklesnakebit since 2011.
@shampeon
Fair enough
but re: Ruutu and Burrows, their PIMs have actually been pretty low (38 and 46 respectively) especially considering their reputations, so they’re probably still able to draw their fair share of penalties without putting their teams in bad spots. Burrows used to rack up 150+ PIMs per season, but he’s definitely toned down his penalties while still maintaining his jerk/asshat reputation.
I’d like to see the Sharks pick up someone who can make other teams go on tilt. But it’s not their most pressing concern and ideally it’d come in the package of someone who isn’t an offensive liability such as the aforementioned players or a Brad Marchand.
Rated M for McGinn.
or a Brad Marchand
Yeah I wouldn’t mind the young and cheap center that is second in the league in 5 on 5 scoring.
You mean like Couture? :D
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
Couture out of uniform:

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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, you mean the Jeff Carter that's been on IR twice this season on a last-place Jackets team?
Can I get a “FUCK NO!” up in here?
Ruutu, maybe. I don’t know much about how he’s playing this year, but I know he’s been great in years past.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Hejduk won’t be traded.
The Sharks have already had Moen once and he was really quite bad here, especailly during the playoffs.
Was that recently?
I thought he’d played a year here or something, but I wasn’t sure.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
08/09 season
I pretend it never happened…Moen was traded to SJ alone w/ Huskins and his broken foot at the time.
yup i was wrong
it was 08-09 MY BAD. a year in Sharks history I think we’d all like to forget…
nope
he played the year we got bounced out of the first round by the Ducks in 2008. And we got him at the trade deadline that year from none other, the Ducks. Man, that must have sucked to be him. Win the cup the year before with them, get traded at the deadline the following season to a team who gets beaten by his old team.
You mean the year they cancelled the playoffs, right?
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Someday Gary Bettman will answer for cancelling playoffs.
Most of us know that he did it, but I’m not really sure why. There was so much potential.
In an alternate universe, Sharks won the cup that year.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
I like the alternate universe where the Sharks win the cup every year.
by bezzerkker on Jan 23, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Is this the real life?
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Moen came with Huskins
let’s not trade for Moen. SJ might get accidentally saddled with Kaberle or something.
Rated M for McGinn.
PLEASE, GOD, NO!
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
On the bright side, Alex Stalock got his first win for the Stockton Thunder Saturday
bad news, he didn’t look great. Let’s hope the Sharks can make us forget about that Canadian team that shall not be named and that football team in blue.
Go Sharks.
Stalock
Not surprising he’s rusty as he hasn’t played a meaningful hockey game in a year!
He did get better as the game went on and overall, a great debut for him. Also sounded like there are no issues w/ his leg where the nerve was severed so that’s good news.
He gave up 5 goals in his debut
This win wasn’t his first game in Stockton.
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
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"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
"Something's gotta give." --Drew Remenda (mumbled under breath on the air)
Ya
What’s your point?
It was his first competitive hockey game in over a year…and he won. It was his season debut, I didn’t say anything about his Stockton debut.
Fallon gave up 7
Stalock did his job and allowed less goals than the other goalie
by SharkKings49 on Jan 23, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
The Hamilton Tiger-Cats?
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
The whole city of Las Vegas?
Well I’d never bet on the Ti-Cats winning, so…
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by Evil Stanchion on Jan 23, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Thats what I said to the people next to me
I sat next to season ticket holders who kept saying to put Roy back in (they didn’t know who Stalock was), but I was cheering for him the whole time. He even had a Shark on his helmet and it looked like teal pads. Plus, during faceoffs he would come to the corner I was at to hit the board with his stick (closest I’ve ever been to an NHL player).
Dear NIner fans: Greiss in net! We're gonna win!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jan 23, 2012 5:54 PM PST reply actions

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