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Sharks emerge victorious from the lion's den in Vancouver, face the King of the Jungle tonight

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Every once in awhile you'll come across a player that just seems to have a team's number no matter the circumstances. For some reason or another they manage to elevate their play to levels previously unseen. Sometimes the player is an All-Star, other times it is a role player. But for whatever the reason, they always seem to show up.

For Vancouver, that player is Dave Bolland. For Philadelphia, that player is Sidney Crosby. For the Eastern Conference, that player is Tim Thomas.

For San Jose, that honor lies with Jonas Hiller.

It's a rare occurrence indeed when the statistics over the long haul match the perception of the player. Oftentimes a "Team Killer" is born out of a few big moments that sting because of their significance, not necessarily a consistent output of domination. But when the narrative road meets reality you really have something on your hands-- an honest to god thorn in the side of a fanbase that always seems to stick and sting at the worst moments imaginable.

Again, that honor lies with Jonas Hiller.

What follows is Hiller's year-by-year statistical breakdown since he came into the League in 2007. As you can see, the perception of Hiller as a Sharks Killer really does ring true-- he's been markedly better against the Sharks than the rest of the NHL, both in his career numbers as well as on a yearly basis.


Jonas Hiller vs. San Jose (Regular Season)



vs. SJS
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vs. NHL
YEAR GP
GAA
SV% - GP GAA SV%
2011-2012 2
1.00
.971 - 32
3.18 .897
2010-2011 3
2.21
.943 - 49
2.56 .924
2009-2010 4
2.77
.915 - 59
2.73 .918
2008-2009 4
2.04
.929 - 46
2.39 .919
2007-2008 2 2.55
.929 - 23
2.06 .927
TOTAL 15 2.20
.934 - 209
2.62 .917

Yes, that's correct. Despite being in the midst of his worst year of his career, Hiller has managed to put up his best numbers against San Jose to date. Sure it's a two-game sample size, but it serves the purpose of illustrating just how good he's been against the Sharks over this time frame.

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To put this into further context-- Hiller's .934 SV% against San Jose is his best regular season total against any team in the Western Conference. Let that sink in for a moment before it slowly dawns on you...

These are regular season totals. That .956 SV% performance during Anaheim's upset over the Presidents Trophy winning Sharks in 2009? Not included. Well, not included in that list anyways. Because we're certain that memory sits at the ready whenever you're looking for a good cry. More effective than American Beauty, that one.

Anyways.

Have to love what San Jose did against Vancouver on Monday. It was about as close as you get to a must-win shootout without falling into 2010 New York-Philly territory, and even if the win is about as meaningful as a loss in the grand scheme of standings points and the like, the amount of emotional involvement attached to that win was a big stepping stone for the club. It remains to be seen how things play out over the long haul against the Canucks, but for now you hope it gives them a little extra gas in the tank as they head into Anaheim against a team that has handled them this season (0-3-0) and ices a goaltender who has consistently had their number (le sigh).

As we covered last time these two teams met, the Ducks are in free fall mode with no light at the end of the tunnel. Ryan Getzlaf trade rumors continue to swirl, Bruce Boudreau hasn't managed to right the ship, and the team seems destined for a lottery pick.

With San Jose 5-1-1 in their last seven, the stars seem to be aligning for a victory.

If only solving Hiller was that easy.

Prediction: Sharks win 6-1. Goals by McGinn, Couture, Marleau, and Boyle in the first ten minutes, with Ferriero and Burns picking up some scraps later in the game.

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Against the team we’re 0-3 against, despite the rest of the league having a field day with them.

You’re optimistic. I like it.

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by Evilducks on Jan 4, 2012 8:14 AM PST reply actions  

While I won't go as far as 6-1...

I think the momentum of beating Vancouver (even in the shootout) will give the Sharks the slight edge.

Sharks beat Hiller 4-3. Goals by Couture, Thornton (who doesn’t have ANY giveaways tonight!), McGinn, and Marleau. Two assist night for Boyle.

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by winthecupsj on Jan 4, 2012 8:21 AM PST reply actions  

Really excited to go to this game tonight.

Hoping its not another 1-0 loss like the previous game at Honda.

Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.

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by sharks in oc on Jan 4, 2012 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

What do you think the reason is that Hiller has the Sharks number? Seems like the Sharks game is pretty methodical, do you think he is a goaltender that is just great at stopping that, but anything that is a little bit fancy he is terrible with?

by Chomp On This on Jan 4, 2012 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

They just hate the Ducks logo so much, they can’t help but firing pucks into it.

by Chomp On This on Jan 4, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

What logo? It’s all just text.

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by ievans on Jan 4, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering that there are a good number of goalies with chests in the NHL, and that’s pretty much our shooting strategy for every game, I’m surprised we don’t lose more games.

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by Kuzcotopia on Jan 4, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

There are still people here who understand sarcasm, right?

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by Matthew_Taylor on Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I think it’s the only thing I understand.

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by ievans on Jan 4, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Sarcasm?

On FTF?

What sort of bizzaro universe is this?

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by ElvisVF101 on Jan 4, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Hiller is a great goalie dont get me wrong.....

But I think it also has something to do with the ducks vagina style defense in their own zone and esp. on the pk where they all collapse like lil bitches and we continue to fire pucks into their shin pads… and hillers chest

by orneryeric on Jan 4, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

But they’ve seen the same thing from them since game once. It just adds to the can’t take it to the next level rep. I see the same kind of turn around this year that the team had last year. I just hope it’s now

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by raphelo on Jan 4, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Just the words ‘save’ and ‘Hiller’ are enough to bring me out in a cold sweat. That trauma of 2009 will live with us all for many years to come.

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by BritShark on Jan 4, 2012 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

I see the Kings game has the CSN coverage tonight. What does that mean?

by ResidentShark on Jan 4, 2012 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

Depends where u live?

Either game will be shown on CSNCA or CSNCA+

Go Big or Go Home

by ChangoT on Jan 4, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

780 on comcast in Sac anyways.

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by Merope on Jan 4, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hiller is a dickhole...

Honestly, I’m tired of that asshat. He might be a nice guy and all, but if he could get “vertigo” again, I wouldn’t mind. I’m tired of him owning our ass. I want to own him like we’ve owned Quick in the past (sometimes we score 5 on him, and sometimes we score 1…but at least we know we CAN score on him). Dropping a hurting on the Ducks would be a nice cap to this short roadie after the tie in Vancouver this week. As we start catching up to the league in games played, we’ll need all the points we can get. Can’t afford to drop easy points against shit teams.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Jan 4, 2012 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

Hiller is not unbeatable

The Sharks just need to f***ing show up. Stats are for losers after all. The Ducks are just plain not a very good hockey team, and it’s time we started treating them accordingly. They have one line, and no discernible defense. Our supposed skilled and sizable lineup needs to get the f*** out there and throw them to the ice and walk all over them.

I don’t give a s*** if we outshoot them 2-1, 3-1, or 100-1. The Sharks need to play some blue collar hockey, crash the crease, get some ugly rebounds and skate circles around these guys. It’s a complete joke for this team to have our number the way they do. As a team, the Ducks have lacked discipline the past few years. They can be put off their game, whatever that game is supposed to be other than RPG for 94 minutes a night.

JUST F***ING CRUSH THEM

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by ElvisVF101 on Jan 4, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Stats are for losers after all.

I think I know where you got that from, lol.

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by sharkzfan on Jan 4, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

I think its even funnier because I was reading their blog yesterday and he seems to be totally behing corsi now when it showed their players were better than what the normal statistics depicted. But oh well at the end of the day stats are for losers =)

by RZ39 on Jan 4, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully, my incorrect prediction...

Ducks 3 Sharks 1

I think the trend will continue… and if it doesn’t, well hell, that would be a welcome surprise. Even with the Ducks near the bottom, I find that I have little sympathy for them; hate flows eternal concerning that franchise.

We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?

by Deep Waters on Jan 4, 2012 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

Ferriero

will help out more against the Ducks then say Havlat. Better chance at beating them if they can get some dirty goals instead of the pretty ones.

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by raphelo on Jan 4, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong

but I think a dirty goal has the same value as a pretty goal.

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by idunno723 on Jan 4, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

They have the same value

Their frequency might be an issue though

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by ElvisVF101 on Jan 4, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Sharks are 5-1-1 in their last 7...

with the only two losses being to Vancouver and Anaheim LOL (the only regulation loss vs. ANA)…

Regardless, please win. Thank you. Go Sharks.

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by Dmitriy on Jan 4, 2012 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

2 Points

The Sharks have picked up points in 8 of their last 9 games, which is good. However, they really need to take advantage of the games in hand they have on the rest of the Western Conference and start winning some games in regulation.

So, at the end of the day, the Sharks really need the 2 points tonight…that said, it would be nice if they beat the crap out of the Ducks (on the scoreboard of course).

by milanahalek on Jan 4, 2012 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

Easy Two Points

As long as the REAL SHARKS show up!

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by ChangoT on Jan 4, 2012 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

Meanwhile, in the dim and dingy den of Duck:


(Pictured: the Anaheim Ducks, with Hiller on the far right)
Corey Perry (at upper left): “Hey. Let’s beat them again!”
Everyone: “Hyuk Hyuk, yeah, let’s do that!”
Duck version of the “Be Prepared” lion king musical sequence follows

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by YeahTommyB4ZGermansGetThere on Jan 4, 2012 1:44 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Awww, so cute. lol.

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by sharkzfan on Jan 4, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Only on ftf

Do you get a miyazaki referance. Awesome dude!!!

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by kaotix on Jan 4, 2012 2:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

What's up with DirectTV scheduling?

I can’t find tonights game on my PVR. Normally on 698, but they are showing that that’s Kings/Warriors bouncy-ball. sjsharks.com says CSNCA. Anyone see it on their gear?

by psantangeli on Jan 4, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry… that’ s Kings/Nuggets round-ball. Equally boring.

by psantangeli on Jan 4, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Two words

Jimmer Fredette.

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by YeahTommyB4ZGermansGetThere on Jan 4, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Never mind. Just fixed itself. Be nice if they didn’t do these updates at the last minute.

by psantangeli on Jan 4, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

again, cuz I posted it way upthread…in Sac when there is a kings conflict the Sharks are on 780 – on Comcrap, can’t help you with DTV

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by Merope on Jan 4, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Since

the Sharks have lost the last three times I’ve gone to a game in Anaheim, and lost badly might I add, I declined an invitation to tonight’s game. Sharks will win. You’re welcome.

by HeatersLeadingLady on Jan 4, 2012 4:11 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

Poor girl

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Jan 4, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Jan 4, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

except

I don’t get the game. It is blacked out in San Diego because they think we get the channel that carries the Anaheim feed even though we don’t. So I was planning on starting Season 2 of Sons of Anarchy! But I may find a stream to watch instead.

by HeatersLeadingLady on Jan 4, 2012 5:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I feel like there's a flaw in your data

You need to include “all other goalies vs Sharks” and “all other goalies vs NHL” over that time frame to see if the sharks just take more subpar shots. I assume given that we’re a reasonably high-scoring team this isn’t the case but I have no intuition for sports statistics, so…

by warning on Jan 4, 2012 11:52 PM PST reply actions  

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