Buffalo's Paul Gaustad would be a perfect fit for San Jose
It's that time of year again.
The topsy-turvy twitter trade game is welcoming plenty of new participants to the table each day as Plank tries his best to keep the front page discussion around here grounded and rational. Every now and then Matt can't help himself of course, but that's part of the reason why we love him so much.
There are plenty of unrealistic trade rumors out there. What do players like Rick Nash, Jeff Carter, Ryan Getzlaf, Correy Perry, Bobby Ryan, Ryan Suter, Tim Thomas, and Zack Parise have in common?
All have been mentioned as possibilities to be moved in deadline deals over the last few weeks and none of them are realistic opportunities for San Jose. While Sharks General Manager Doug Wilson does have more cap space to work with than he has had in years-- according to Cap Geek the Sharks could add $3.5 MM in cap hits as of right now and $5.9 MM once the deadline arrives with both Niittymaki and Sheppard on the roster-- the prospects in the pipeline and committed payroll heading into next year make any long term commitments unrealistic.
What those Stanley Cup aspirations and cap space this season mean however is that the Sharks will once again be a buyer at the deadline, a position the organization has been comfortable with as of late. San Jose hasn't subtracted a significant piece from the roster at the deadline for years now unless you count Steve Bernier as a significant piece (and if you count Steve Bernier as a significant piece definitely let us know-- our fantasy teams need some help).
With Martin Havlat serving as a deadline acquisition of his own when it comes to adding a piece to the Sharks top six it's likely that San Jose will focus the majority of their efforts at acquiring a lower line player that helps to round out their depth and be able to carry his own in a second line role if the situation calls for it.
Which is what makes this piece from Elliote Friedman so intriguing:
A couple of teams think Buffalo's Paul Gaustad would be a very nice fit in San Jose. That kind of big, depth centre is exactly the kind of player the Sharks eye. Another GM said he could see Wild defender Marek Zidlicky being a possibility there, too. He's out of favour in Minnesota and those two teams like dealing with one another.
As far as the rumor game goes, Elliotte Friedman is one of the guys you can trust. Unlike many others he's never blindly throwing darts at a wall in a quest for page hits, and as one of the of the preeminent hockey personalities in North America, a comment like this carries some legitimate weight.
Having said that, we think it's safe to rule out the Zidlicky angle-- with the Sharks blueline already packed with eight defenseman, and Zidlicky carrying a $4.0 MM cap hit into next season at the age of 35, that's a play that doesn't make sense for the Sharks.
The Gaustad angle? That one has us chomping at the bit.
With Buffalo quickly spiraling out of contention and spending an exorbitant amount of money this year and next, pending UFA's and RFA's on the team are expected to be ripe for the picking this month. According to Friedman the Sharks are after a big center who can provide depth, something that the 6'5 225 pound Gaustad provides in spades. Furthermore, this jives with Kevin Kurz's assertion that the Sharks aren't getting everything they expected from Michal Handzus. The scoring chances compiled by FTF staff writer The Neutral this season throw some more fuel on that fire, although from a qualitative standpoint we feel like Handzus has helped more than he has hurt.
Gaustad would definitely bring depth to the forward group of course, a unit that has had trouble with inconsistency and injury this season. And consistency is the name of the game for Gaustad, who over the last three full years has posted 12 goals every season. A rough year this season marred by injury has depressed his counting stats, but poor play from Buffalo as a whole softens those numbers-- Gaustad seems like a guy who would thrive with a new team, something that should be intriguing for the Sharks.
What Gaustad has continued to bring this year is physical play-- at 6'5 225 pounds Gaustad would be the biggest forward on the team aside from Brad Winchester. That size would fit in well with the methodical low cycle game San Jose thrives at grinding opposing teams down with.
Furthermore, Gaustad is no stranger to ice time in shorthanded situations. He finished last season second on the team before former Shark Mike Grier and currently leads the Sabres with 2:49 TOI this season. With that heavy load Gaustad still comes out smelling like roses, allowing 5.01 goals/60 in comparison to 6.97 when he's off the ice.
Speaking of the penalty kill, Gaustad is a face-off maven with his 55.6% success rate good for 16th in the NHL this season. Last year, Gaustad was third in the NHL (with a 59.8%). The year before? Sixth (57.4%). Those numbers show that one year isn't an outlier. He's proficient at his craft, and on a Sharks penalty kill that has struggled this season (while admittedly much better as of late), winning those ever important faceoffs and burning time off the clock is an asset that would be extremely helpful.
That's really the most intriguing part of Gaustad's game-- his ability to make a significant contribution in the defensive zone. His defensive zone draw numbers are to die for (1st on the team over the last three seasons), and what's best about those situations is the context-- Gaustad's relative CORSI has ended up around the 7th spot in all of those seasons, which is nothing short of spectacular considering he's starting the vast majority of his shifts in the defensive end. This is a player who pushes the play in the right direction, a valuable commodity in this League especially when you can surround him with some talented players.
What Gaustad lacks of course is top six scoring ability, something the Sharks struggled with heading into the All-Star Break (although they more than made up for it last night). But he does have a history of consistently scoring 12 goals-- putting him on that third line with Jamie McGinn and Torrey Mitchell/Michal Handzus would give San Jose some scoring depth that would further strengthen the team's ability to get timely goal scoring from their lower lines. Coupled with Gaustad's ability to drive the play in the right direction and his defensive responsibility as a whole? That's something that is real easy to get excited about.
With a $2.3 MM contract and impending free agency this offseason, Gaustad is a low-risk and affordable acquisition for San Jose that still would allow them to make another move to stay under the cap.
As we explored in August of last year, third line acquisitions have historically been cheap to come by at the deadline-- a package that centers around a mid-round pick and a prospect that requires seasoning could be enough to land Gaustad, especially if Buffalo decides to sell off their impending free agents to build for the future.
San Jose will prepare for the future as well this month, even if that future lies only two months away.
With Gaustad on the roster, that future would look brighter than it does already.
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From what I understand, someone asked Gaustad where he was when Miller got run by Boston. He replied “Where were you with Chara”.
I don’t see any issue with that. “Where’s Chara” doesn’t really make sense to me as a taunt.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Both teams were taunting each other about who gets their ass handed to them more by Boston.
Kind of an embarrassing way to talk smack don’t you think?
except that he said it to Max Pacioretty last night
who (as we remember) got run by Chara into the stancheon last year. apparently, it was an on-ice taunt to try to throw Pacioretty off……but it didn’t really seem that clever or nasty
I don’t know if anyone knows the whole story.
Everyone talks sh*t. Who cares.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 1, 2012 1:04 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
It would rotate between Zeus and Mitchell depending on game situation and what McLellan wants from his third line (more speed or more defensive responsibility).
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 1, 2012 12:45 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Gaustad would also be the kind of guy who they could use the way they used Nichol in the past. Bring him in on top line to take big draw, and then shift off. However, I think Gaustad could probably fit anywhere, so he wouldn’t have to bail as soon as the draw was over.
He fits anywhere. I agree with Plank that more speed would be nice as well, but Gaustad would be a huge pick up.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a good point but the reason Nichol took those draws in the right dot is because he’s a righty so a backhand win pushes the puck to the corner. Since both Couture and Thornton are lefties, having Gaustad (also a lefty) takes those draws doesn’t make much sense.
Either way though, Gaustad’s ability in the faceoff circle definitely opens up some more options for McLellan on the PK.
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 1, 2012 1:03 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Didn’t look at his handedness, but what I’m trying to say is that he could be used in a variety of situations because of his FO prowess.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Mitchell takes Murray’s spot on the 4th. He’s better than Murray but fills the same role.
McGinn is better with Zeus and provides enough speed on that line. Gaustad added to those two would be a friggen wrecking crew on the ice.
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by Evilducks on Feb 1, 2012 12:53 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Can you imagine the forechecking on that line? Freaking nuts.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I love McGinn this year. He’s been a model of consistency. Also he hits people a lot. And now he’s scoring! Hooray!
Jamie McGinn is the best thing since the advent of bacon.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Feel free to call me ignorant but...
What exactly is forecheck? And grinding? I’ve been a hockey fan since I was a little kid (never played; no money >:), but I’ve never understood these bottom-line roles.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
A forecheck, in essense, is the application of pressure to a team in their own zone. What Desjardins did to Tyutin last night was an example of great forechecking.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
I’m with you. It’s really vague. Feel free to use it vaguely. It’s basically anything a given team does in the offensive zone when they don’t have control of the puck.
It’s confusing because backchecking isn’t the opposite.
It is the opposite afaik.
Forechecking is when the puck is in the offensive zone and you’re trying to retrieve it, most commonly by applying pressure to opposing defensemen to cause them to turn the puck over.
Backchecking is the opposite, when the puck is in your own zone and you’re trying to retrieve it, most commonly by applying pressure to opposing forwards to cause them to turn the puck over.
Grinding can mean a lot of things i suppose but to me it generally means that you’re maintaining possession of the puck in the offensive zone along the boards and in the corners, preferably while drawing multiple defenders to you.
i like this idea
But don’t the Sharks have too many CENTERS already?
Personally id like the Sharks to look for speed and skill.
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by ChangoT on Feb 1, 2012 12:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Speed and skill would be excellent as well. With the amount of cap space they have this year, I think you can lock down both Gaustad and another player (Ruutu, Nielsen, etc.)
Where you run into trouble there of course is giving up assets. San Jose probably has enough in the pipeline to acquire two players and not strip their future bare, but it’s a relevant discussion to have if you’re forced to decide between one or the other.
If that’s the case I go with speed and skill as well.
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 1, 2012 12:43 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
This is a league generally devoid of speed and skill though.
This COULD be because I follow teams like Nashville, Florida, Columbus and San Jose, but it feels like there’s approximately 3 or 4 of these seemingly-magical forwards on each team, with interchangeable pieces and tough, defensive-minded guys filling out the roster. I would think those players are rather hard to come by.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah Paul Gaustad would definitely be a nice addition but i’m praying that we’re able to pick up either Shane Doan or Tuomo Ruutu.
Hate to ruin your Shane Doan dreams but Maloney came straight out and said Doan will not be traded unless he comes to them and asks for a trade, which Doan said has very little chance of happening.
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big guy at center on the 3rd line with Winchester on the 4th is enough. I’d like to see the 4th line go back to being Winch, Desi and A. Murray. No need to mess that up unless they get like a Rutuu to wing with Thorton and move Pav back down to center the 3rd. Or find a faster, better scoring 3rd line center to move Zus down to the 4th. Gaustad would be cool to have but I think a back up for 4th line center would be more then enough instead. A solid back up that could step in for Desi, Winchester or Murray and be more productive then say Mclaren, Wingels or McCarthy. They wouldn’t have to give up nearly as much for lower line depth and still be able to concentrate on getting better players for roles like top 6 depth and a 3rd line playmaker/scorer.
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Wingels actually looked really good on the top line with Thornton before he got injured, not even counting his goal he just looked good and pushing the pace and pulling defenders to him and contributing to the offense etc. Not top 6 quality in his own right as of now, but he definitely looked better than Desi/Mitchell/McGinn have up there. He’s like Ferriero though, andjust not a bottom line type of player.
A top 6 upgrade would be nice, but the only pieces to move are Mitchell and Demers, so its looking more and more likely that a 3rd line upgrade is all we can really go for, and so Gaustad seems to fit that bill nicely without needing to give much up because 3rd line UFAs go for cheap at the deadline.
Only if we can somehow ship Zeus somewhere. I don’t want to mess with the Rifleman-Dezy-A. Murray fourth line, they’ve been awesome. And I don’t want to bury a $2.5M cap hit for this and next year on the fourth line, especially when Dezy has been so great.
Having both Zeus and Gaustad would be a luxury.
Both primarily take draws in the defensive zone and kill penalties. Having both of them would allow us to have Jumbo take more draws in the offensive zone which would increase the amount of gpalz we score.
Handzus has one of either a NTC or a NMC (I forget which one) so he’s probably not going anymore.
Gaustad is a UFA this offseason which means that Handzus playing on the fourth line next year isn’t a real concern.
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 1, 2012 12:39 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
can't I hope they retain both?
I know Zues isn’t scoring, but I really attribute a lot of the McGinn turn around to him. It’s like Havlat, there are more to them than points scored (though Havlat is being paid to add points)
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by Evilducks on Feb 1, 2012 12:56 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Talked to McGinn after last night’s game for a good long while. He attributes a ton of his turnaround to Handzus.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
In what capacity?
Play style? Mentorship? Cheat codes?
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
First two. He won’t share the third.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
proposed trade:
Michal Handzus, Antero Niittimaki, Jason Demers, and 1st round draft pick for Pavel Datsyuk’s Game Genie.
Overpayment
They probably should throw in Jimmy Howard’s Game Shark as well.
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You have no idea how excited the idea of Gaustad on the Sharks has made me.
I have a huge exam to go take in an hour but I am positively giddy.
Same.
Well. Mine’s more of a calculus test.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
I just have to say, I love being the professor who doesn’t give tests.
Of course I wish I had tests to grade instead of papers, but, well, I’ll take the goodwill and run with it, I suppose.
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With tests, you either know the material or you don’t. That’s your proving ground. With assignments and papers, you can write whatever bullshit and get away with it. There is a select group of students in my program that would not be there if they weren’t cheating on exams and copying each other’s assignments (easier to do in engineering courses).
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah but still
if only the Sharks could get Handzus to waive his NTC or NMC, get something back for him and sign Gaustad in the offseason instead. Trade him to Anaheim! Doesn’t he live somewhere out there.
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A difference maker?
For the sake of this analysis, I’ll just look at the Western Conference and exclude the Pens, Caps, Ranges and Boston who are all serious Cup Contenders.
I still think we don’t stack up well against Chicago, Detroit who will get better/much better before the trade deadline is past, and Vancouver. I think Gaustad can help the team, but we need more than that to get out of the West. I don’t think we are in any better position to come out of the West this year then we were last year. D is better, Offense is MAYBE even, and PK is worse. I also don’t believe Havlat is going to come in and be a difference maker. Let’s not forget, he wasn’t lighting up the league or even the Top 6 on the team when he got hurt.
So, this is a good depth move, I just don’t know if this is enough. I think we need more skill and an impact player with the puck.
If you’re worried about the PK… don’t see anyone better equipped to fix the problem.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 1, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention the Sharks are the least physical team in the league. He helps out there too.
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by Evilducks on Feb 1, 2012 1:28 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
No doubt he will help, i just think we need more. But this piece is about Gaustad, and in that regard the answer is yes- trading for him will help the team. I think we just need more. But let’s be honest, more than anything, we need Niemi to be the hottest goalie in the playoffs. That’s usually how teams win the Cup. Sans the 2010 Blackhawks with Niemi- that team was clearly the best team in the league even with Niemi playing good but not great.
Can’t get more without giving up more. Can moan all you like about things not being good enough, but the question then would be who WOULD be good enough and how much of the team do you destroy to get them?
On top of that, would that person mesh well with the new team? Look at Carter, when that trade happened and the other off season moves they did, it was assumed by everyone that they’d finally be a playoff team. Maybe not ready for a Cup run, but definitely playoffs. And look at them now.
The Sharks are already a solid team. Even if you don’t think they fully match up to teams like Chicago/Vancouver/etc, will a single player suddenly turn that around? Especially considering that single player would be in but another top 6 guy would also then be out.
Everyone would love a 1st pick for Malkin trade or a Nitty for Nash deal, but that kind of stuff only happens in dreams. Any significant player the Sharks could hope to get would take away a significant player as well, since the Sharks do not have a deep prospect pool for doing futures dealings with rebuilding teams.
All we can do is pray that Havlat gets healthy asap and turns his season around into that of a monster, and hope for some 3rd line quality depth.
There's a limit to what the Sharks can do
Gaustad would fit this team’s needs perfectly. And wouldn’t require selling off major assets (which the Sharks are low on anyway). Bring him in, and just hope that the team stays healthy and Havlat returns and finally gets clicking come April. I don’t think it’s fair at all to dismiss his potential contributions.
The only worry with Gaustad is that obviously a lot of teams would love him, and I think Buffalo still regards him highly—he’s the kind of guy I could see them just locking up long-term instead of dealing. Then it’s on to Plan B. Maybe a guy like Dominic Moore—swap the size of Gaustad for the speed of Moore. But still, he doesn’t set my heart a-flutter like Gaustad does.
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The Caps are hardly cup contenders.
At the pace they’re going, they’re going to have to fight it out with Florida take take the Southeast, and with Toronto, New Jersey, Winnipeg and probably also Florida for the 8th seed. The Pens aren’t really cup contenders either – they just happen to be on a tear against a string of really weak competition. How many of those 8 wins are in regulation? Maybe 3 or 4?
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Here’s the difference, the Pens get Crosby back and at 80% they might be Cup Favorites. We get Havlat back at 100%, we can challenge for the WCF.
You're a funny one.
Sharks are cup contenders, along with every other team that makes the playoffs. Logic gets thrown out the window once the postseason starts. Honestly, I don’t even know that Pittsburgh makes the playoffs this year, and if they do, it’s because of this streak they’re on right now. And it’ll be in a 7th or 8th seed.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
You’re saying that neither the Penguins nor the Capitals are going to make the playoffs this year? That is bold.
It's entirely possible.
All you need is a surge from Toronto, Florida and Winnipeg. Hell, even Tampa’s making a solid upward charge right now. Washington is on VERY shaky ground, and Pittsburgh is overachieving right now.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Pittsburgh isn’t overachieving. Their team has had horrible luck with injuries all season long and theyre still pretty high in the standings.
Malkin’s probably the best player in the league right now. Kris Letang is easily one of the best defensemen in the league right now. Their defense overall is solid as hell, they have a good bottom 6 and a great goaltender.
Pittsburgh is legit. When they’re 100% healthy (Crosby included) they’re easily cup favorites imo.
They are also near the top of the league in Fenwick
I absolutely think they are a playoff team and might even be the best team in their division (New York’s underlying statistics aren’t all that impressive).
Do we really need another center?
I mean, I actually really like Gaustad. But, unless we’re trading away Handzus (unlikely), I just don’t see room for him. Between Pavelski, Thornton, Marleau, Couture, Handzus, and Desjardins…all four lines are covered by centers who aren’t going anywhere and have been keys to our successes this year at one level or another. If the Sharks really feel Handzus isn’t working out as their third line center, I think Desjardins would be more than capable of filling that role and really getting a lot out of it.
I mean, I guess Gaustad can always play on the wing (after taking faceoffs, since he is rather elite at winning them), and we could bump someone more useless like AMurray or Mitchell…I guess I just don’t see this as being a move that brings us any closer to a Cup this year.
I agree with Ronnibily above (who posted as I’m currently writing this post), I think we need an impact player this year at the deadline. I’d hope the Sharks target a top 6 sniping winger…I think that would really get us closer to true Cup contention…
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I’d be fine with Desi taking a 4th line wing spot (taking A. Murray’s spot, basically, because even though he’s made some nice contributions, it’s clear that the coaching staff doesn’t regard him so highly—putting Vandermeer, a defensive defenseman, in his spot for two straight games says a lot).
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I could see that...
Desi has looked pretty good on the wing on the top line as an injury replacement…so he can definitely play there. Would you be thinking of a Desi-Gaustad-Winchester line? Cuz that would probably own. Or more of a Desi-Handzus-Winchester line (which excites me less).
Either way, I think its only a marginal improvement at best…and really doesn’t thrust us into elite contender status. I still think a sniper is more important.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 1, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
I agree on the need for a top 6 guy
But the fact of the matter is, I think we’d have to give up Demers or Braun in a package for that kind of guy, not to mention the cap implications. I think we’re pretty well committed to Havlat. But bringing in someone who could push McGinn into the top 6 (like Gausted) is intriguing.
Marleau-Thornton-Pavelski
Clowe-Couture-McGinn
Gausted-Handzus-Mitchell
Winchester-Desjardins-Murray
I’m not entirely opposed to this kind of lineup. And if Havlat comes back and is effective, I don’t see any issues. Murray or Mitchell are expendable in this scenario (unless Gausted is a pure rental).
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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 1, 2012 2:42 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Your lineup lacks some Ferriero.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 1, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Once Clowe & Havlat are healthy and assuming they pick up at least one forward, Ferriero likely moves to the press box (unless he’s included in a trade). There’s really not a spot for him on this team when everyone is healthy.
I'd rather see Mitchell or A. Murray traded to make room for Ferreiro, TBQH.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
I like Ferriero plenty
but he just doesn’t really work well as a bottom 6 guy. He doesn’t have Mitchey’s defensive acumen and speed, and he doesn’t have A. Murray’s size and speed.
Unless we somehow get two top-6 wingers, I do see Ferriero sticking around in teal, though. While he hasn’t been fantastic, he does a workable job replacing Havlat. Since Havlat won’t be back until March, well after the trade deadline, I see us hanging on to Ferriero. When Marty comes back, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see Ferriero benched against tough competition, and then playing (but not too well) in a bottom-6 role until we get to play-offs. This way, if another injury happens to the top-6, Ferriero is still around to plug that hole.
Maybe we'll trade Havlat at the draft. :P
Something crazy. Our first and Havlat to Columbus for their first. ;D
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
You can laugh all the way during his penalty kill shifts.
And I’ll start seeing if I can hold my breath every time Ferriero is on the ice when we’re short-handed. You’ll get a good laugh, and I’ll breath easy.
Mitchey isn’t an incredible defensive forward (see entries: Pavelski, Couture, Marleau, and post-2011 Thornton) but he has better defensive play than Benny.
I'm not saying Mitchey is awesome.
Maybe it’s a misunderstanding of the word “acumen.” http://www.thefreedictionary.com/acumen
Defensive acumen doesn’t imply some kind of mastery, but comparing Ferriero’s defensive skills to Mitchell’s just doesn’t look favorable for Benny.
Yeah i feel the same way about everything you mentioned.
Gaustad doesn’t excite me at all even though he’s a great player. He would definitely help the team but he just doesn’t seem to be what we need.
I like Handzus and i think he’s been doing pretty well. He hasn’t been lightning the world on fire or anything but he plays well defensively, he doesn’t make mistakes, and he seems to have had a major impact on McGinn.
I really hope we make an effort to get Shane Doan assuming he becomes available. i’d like to see our lines look like this:
Marleau/Thornton/Doan
Clowe/Couture/Pavelski
McGinn/Handzus/Havlat
Winchester/Desjardins/Mitchell
Doan’s grit, skill, defensive responsibility, and right handed shot would be a perfection addition to our top line. Handzus seems to have a bit of chemistry with both McGinn and Havlat so i think that could be a real good line as well.
I'd kill for Doan...
And that lineup makes me all tingly. Although I’d replace Mitchell with Ferriero in your setup there…but I’m a well known Ferriero-guy. But yeah, Doan would be a great grab. Phoenix will never trade him, but we can always dream!
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 2, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
MOAAR CENTERZZ
lets ice a team of only centers
the wing is a dying position in the new NHL
by slotownsharksfan on Feb 1, 2012 1:35 PM PST reply actions
could we package derek roy in that trade as well..hes having the worst year of his year since his rookie year and is a top six forward fer sure. roy and gaustad to san jose!
Certainly an option, and a feasible alternative to Ruutu.
But it really depends on the asking price. If DW and Buffalo’s GM go tanning together and get a tight bromance going, then it could be cheap. If not, they may want more than we can offer.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
His salary
Is $5.5mil next year, cap hit is $4mil…it would still put a lot of strain on the cap next season.
Although Roy used to be a star.
Still 28 too. Damn I’d actually love to take a gamble and acquire him. But we don’t have the cap space for next year which is what I was originally getting at.
Has anybody seen Gaustad play?
How well can he skate? I understand he has a large frame, but what does he provide after taking face offs and play on the PK.
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All I can think of is...
Sweatiiiing Bulleeeeeeeeeets.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
If we could get Ruutu/Nielsen+Gaustad, I would be one happy Sharks fan yo
Marleau-Thornton-Pavs
Clowe-Couture-Ruutu/Nielsen
McGinn-Handzus-Havlat
Winchester-Gaustad-Mitchell
Desjardins/Murray
Vlasic-Burns
Murray-Boyle
Vandermeer-Braun
Demers/White
Niemi
Greiss
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
Go Sharks!
I agree with the notion
of a speedy skilled winger. One of the issues I see with this team is it’s mobility. The Sharks are fairly methodical about their game night in and night out, unless they’re playing Chicago, Vancouver, or another team like that. The way the Sharks are currently set up, they sometimes beat those teams. Most of the time I feel it goes the other way, especially in the playoffs.
While Gaustad is an interesting choice to help this team out, I’m not sure he’s the solution. I kinda cringe at the thought of the Sharks getting slower than they are now. They have their moments of speed, but nothing consistent. I’d actually be ok with them shipping off either Braun or Demers with Mitchell and / or Nitty for a real solid replacement piece for the offense. Having one Journeyman on the defense playing on the third line isn’t going to kill us.
by Dermal Denticles on Feb 1, 2012 3:26 PM PST reply actions
If the Sharks committed to more physicality,
then I’d be happy with Gaustad. Don’t we have one of the larger teams in the NHL? Why don’t the sharks hit and check more often? I’m not talking about fights necessarily, but make them pay for gaining the zone, and push them off the puck. The Sharks could do that a whole lot more and be successful at it.
by Dermal Denticles on Feb 1, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
All I know about Paul Gaustad is that he’s on my fantasy team every year because he wins a lot of FO’s and has C and LW eligibility.
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If...
If the Sharks are only going to pick up 1 player before the TDL, Gaustad is not the player I’d want them to target. He’s pretty redundant to Handzus and doesn’t really fill the most pressing need which, in my opinion, is a 2nd/3rd line tweener who can skate and add some goals.
If they pick up 2 players than I’m all for him – he can play 3rd or 4th line, PK, add size and physicality.
This.
The team’s 2nd in F/O , 5th in team defense and shots against and are 89 on the PK since their switch (over a season, 89% would be 3rd)
They need speed and some offensive threat outside of the top 6.
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PK
People still look at the league standings and say the Sharks PK sucks…it’s been really, really good since they hit that re-set button about 6 weeks ago. There is no way they’re going to end up even in the top 20 in PK on the season (unless they take and kill a ton of penalties) because they take so few penalties, but if the PK continues on this current trend then I don’t care where they’re ranked.
If anyone wants to scout Gaustad
The Sabres are playing the Rangers right now on NBC Sports Network. Look for the big boy wearing #28 in blue. Just had a nice shift with some good puck cycling down low. Playing left wing with Boyes (though I’m sure Gaustad is taking the draws).
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I'm watching that game too.
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So much better than the buffaslug of a few years ago
by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 1, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Slugallo.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
I'll be optimistic with this
If we acquire Gaustad, we have these probable bottom 6 line combos:
McGnyan-Gaustad-Handzus
Winchester-Desjardins-Mitchell/A. Murray
Personally, I think that would make for an amazing bottom 6.
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by dfh15 on Feb 1, 2012 6:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Albeit it’s a really slow third line.
Dany Heatley=All-star.
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by dfh15 on Feb 1, 2012 6:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Moen
I’m not sure what DW’s track record is with trading for ex-Shark rentals, but Travis Moen seems to fit what the Sharks need without complicating things down the middle. Size, grit, defensively sound, faster than Gaustad, playoff experience. He may not be the biggest goal scorer but is capable of chipping in. A third line of McGinn-Handzus-Moen sounds like a physical and speedy checking line that can match up with anyone, provide grinding shifts and maybe a few timely goals.
figure he should be a similar price as Gaustad, also a UFA, and also a bit cheaper this year so theres some extra $ if DW would want to make another move.
WOW, what a game
between the sabres and rangers just now. did anybody else watch that?
by BFU on Feb 1, 2012 7:27 PM PST via Android app reply actions
I want Ruutu.
But we need less lefties.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 1, 2012 8:09 PM PST reply actions
What about trading for gaustad and brad Boyes in a package trade instead of Roy. Brad Boyes is bigger and I don’t think hes as expensive as roy
Trade Marleau.
He has no heart.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Eww, girls!
Quit, escape to the tree fort!
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Quick*
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'd kill for Boyes
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 1, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
Top 5 people you would be willing to kill, go.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Justin Bieber, Eklund, anyone from Teen Mom, anyone from Toddlers in Tiaras, That guy from Counting Crows with the weird hair, That Lilith Fair chick who does the sad dog commercials, Eric the Midget, Chris Pronger, Brian Campbell, any member of the Canucks or Redwings, James Sheppard, any female whose got a screen name about being an imaginary girlfriend of a hockey player, Spencer Pratt, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, that guy who played Urkel, Charlie Sheen.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Wow
That’s a little harsh. I’ll be the first to admit that my username is silly. I made it up in about five seconds because I couldn’t think of anything really original and I really liked Dany Heatley as a player. I don’t think I’m his girlfriend and to judge me based solely on my nickname is a little ridiculous. In my opinion I’m shown myself to be a competent Sharks fan and hockey fan and hockey player, and to have you continuously harp on this is getting old. Furthermore, you can call me sensitive if you want, but I think putting “females with usernames about being hockey players imaginary girlfriends” on a list of people you would supposedly kill to make a trade is taking it a bit too far.
But what do I know? I’m just some dumb girl who only watches hockey for Dany Heatley and that’s why I’m still posting on the Sharks blog even after he has been traded.
I don’t even know why I bothered replying to this
by HeatersLeadingLady on Feb 2, 2012 10:08 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I don't think he's targeting you specifically. :P
I’ve seen a lot of usernames like MARRYMESEDIN, DoansGirlfriend, etc. THOSE ones are just horrid.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 2, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry
But he has said disparaging things specifically in reference my name in the past. So maybe he wasn’t targeting me this time, but given the history I’m a bit sensitive to it. My name is stupid, I agree, as stupid as the ones you posted in my opinion. If I could change it I would. But at the end of the day it is a freaking user name and people need to not read so much into them.
by HeatersLeadingLady on Feb 2, 2012 10:16 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
But's he's also got a history of being a dick.
One he takes pride in. Tis best ignored.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 2, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Nope, he's definitely targeting.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 2, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Shockingly, that bathroom is cleaner than the one the Indian housemates use. : /
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 2, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Don't be racist against indians.
They’re sensitive. ;)
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 2, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Why is everyone on Buffalo underperforming?
If Boyes, Roy, Leino, Miller, and Ennis were playing like they have in years past they would be a playoff team.
Possibly depression.
Living in Buffalo will do that.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Miller actually looked pretty good tonight.
Victory did rely upon his team being able to score on Henrik Lundqvist, though.
x

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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Start using the reply function plox.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 1, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
OT, But totally amazing
Jamie McGinn tweeted this and it came up on the Sharks site:
http://i41.tinypic.com/8zn1cg.gif
Pardon my ignorance, but Fear the fin is the first place i’ve ever seen that gif (sometime last season i think but with different players).
Does this mean he actually reads here? Or did Plank/ Matt Taylor tip him off or invite him for an interview or something? Either way, still pretty awesome.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 2, 2012 5:35 AM PST up reply actions
Low Points in FTF History
A post responding to “Top 5 people you’d be willing to kill” goes green.
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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 2, 2012 1:41 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
U GUYS
How bout trading for Chris Stewart??
He becomes and RFA at the end of this year but his cap hit is only 2.875 mill which we could easily afford, and he’s exactly what we’re looking for imo.
He’s underperformed in St. Louis but the dudes got skill. He’s big, strong, young, fast, has a great shot and works hard (from what i remember). I haven’t watched him much since he was traded to St. Louis but in Colorado he was an absolute stud.
I’d think Demers + a pick or maybe Ferriero could get us Stewart. What do you guys think?
Or...
We could try and get Christian Ehrhoff back? He’s got 3 goals, 16 assists, and is a -9. And I think he’s only making about $11 million this year and his cap hit is only $4 million until 2021. Crap! I just realized he has a NTC. Damn, there goes the season.
I actually think we need a top 6 forward a lot more than a third liner.
Havlat has been a huge disappointment, on top of that our other top 6 guys, with the exception of cooch, hasn’t really been up to their usual offensive standards.
This year we have a 2.78 G/G average, while last year we had a 2.96 G/G average.
On the flip side though, we are much better defensively, giving up just 2.28 G/G, as opposed to 2.54 last year.
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