Sharks Gameday: Moore on Moore, The Dash for Rick Nash, and a look forward to the Canes
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Work these days is an absolute grind for all the wrong reasons.
Ever the diligent employee, I forsake the world of Twitter from 9-6 in order to handle my business. I love the company I work for, we have a ton of momentum going right now, and the office has added some new employees which have really made a big impact on the things we are going to accomplish. In other words, things are absolutely roses.
The only issue is that right now is the trade deadline frenzy.
Which means with little birdies chirping in your ear all day things can get a little hectic.
In case you missed it earlier (you didn't, because unlike me, you've already surpassed your 3G data usage for this month), the Sharks acquired gritty forward Dominic Mooree and a 7th round pick from the Tampa Bay Lightning in exchange for a 2nd round pick. That 2nd round pick was acquired from Minnesota last offseason in the deal that brought Brent Burns over to the team.
Moore gives San Jose some much needed depth up front and should fit in well with either the third or second line this year as the Sharks look to improve what's cooking in the forward kitchen. As Matt said this morning, Moore really helps out San Jose on the penalty kill-- Moore has averaged 2:00 of SH TOI this season, clocked in at 2:07 last year, and will theoretically be able to spell the big guns of Pavelski, Marleau, Thornton, and Couture in this situation.
Another plus is the trust coaches seem to have in his game. He's not going to see these kinds of totals with the Sharks this postseason, but when you come in as the fourth highest forward on your team for overall ice time during a run to the Eastern Conference Finals as Moore did last year, I think that speaks to the complete package of the player in question.
In terms of even strength production, Moore is pretty much what you would expect in this situation-- while his CORSI numbers relative to his former teammates this year currently sits at 9th, he did come in 3rd last season on a Lightning team that was no stranger to giving up shots towards the net. He doesn't bang the twine too often, which is something the Sharks still look like they need, but acquiring a solid forward to help round out their depth was a need the team clearly wanted to address before moving forward.
Coupled with his respectable quality of competition numbers (third line quality) as well as his good skating ability it's safe to say that the Sharks got better today. The price San Jose paid for his services, a second round pick that looks like it could be in the top 40 overall considering Minnesota's poor underlying numbers and current slide, is maybe a little much but that's just nitpicking-- the difference between a 2nd round and 3rd round pick is a relatively small difference for a team like San Jose who is in win-now mode, and the fact of the matter is that the Sharks got better today and acquired a versatile forward who will give them some responsibility in the defensive end.
Again, back to this deadline situation-- I feel like I need to continue to address the Nash situation because, despite what I feel is an air tight case on why Nash won't end up in San Jose, the rumors continue to swirl. When the ever-reliable Bob McKenzie talks you listen, and according to his sources the Sharks are one of the four teams in the running for his services as a "Plan B" option if the Los Angeles Kings and the New York Rangers can't get it done.
As I said earlier this week, if I'm Scott Howson I hold onto my assets until this summer when I can open up the field and truly explore what kind of return I'd be able to receive for my franchise player and current team Captain. With that being said, let's run down the facts again:
- Unless Howson completely blows this deal and gets swindled, any trade for Rick Nash starts and ends with Joe Pavelski or Logan Couture plus a significant package of either roster players or prospects. From my point of view I don't think the Sharks have the assets in the system to get this done without giving up more roster players, which puts up the red lights for me.
- That being said, if there is a guy who can maneuver in tight corners and complete a deal for a superstar while keeping his core intact it is Doug Wilson. It'd take an absolute miracle, and with Los Angeles throwing around names like Bernier + Johnson it puts San Jose really behind the eight ball, but the fact that Nash has a No Movement clause definitely can swing things in favor of the Sharks.
- Maybe I'm just losing my mind but as many have said before me, this is starting to feel like the Dany Heatley trade that sent Milan Michalek and Jonathan Cheechoo to Ottawa. Your gut says no it won't happen, but the rumors keep coming at a feverish pace.
- Long story short? This only happens if Columbus allows a potentially lame duck GM to make the biggest move in franchise history, other suitors fall out of the picture, and the Sharks are able to sell the Jackets on a couple of their prospects which from my vantage point don't match up to what the cost should be for a player of his skill level.
- Unfortunately for Columbus fans, that's a possibility however remote it may be.
- I'm still sticking to my guns-- Nash to San Jose won't happen, it feels like an offseason move for San Jose. I think it's a far more realistic possibility at that moment in time. Furthermore, I think the deadline comes and goes without a Rick Nash trade and he gets moved in the offseason.
- Both Dan Rusanowsky and Jamie Baker said the same thing on the radio tonight in regards to a Nash-San Jose deal, with Drew Remenda and Randy Hahn echoing those sentiments on television. Five's company or something like that.
Further complicating these issues is that Darren Dreger is reporting that an offer for Mikhail Grabovski of the Toronto Maple Leafs is on the table. The return? A second round pick and a prospect. Although the Sharks just gave up Minnesota's second round pick, they do have a the 25th pick in the second round due to the fact that they did not re-sign Patrick White this offseason.
As Dreger mentions in the video linked above, Brian Burke stated that he may be able to sweeten the pot and get a first round pick out of the team in question. That sounds more like a Wilson play to me than one in which you round up the horses and sacrifice your depth for an impact player who probably won't make as much of an impact as the combined weight of what you're sending out.
It's enough to make your head spin.
I feel like Lucille Austero right now.
Let's get some levity against the Canes, pick up two points, and put this road trip back on track.
Prediction: Sharks win 3-2. Goals by Pavelski, Clowe, and Burns.
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Corrected “Joe Pavelski and Logan Couture” to “Joe Pavelski or Logan Couture” for those currently reading and trying desperately to fend off a heart attack.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Feb 16, 2012 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
I almost had one
I woke up to a text this morning from my brother telling me about a Pavs and Couture trade for Nash and I cried a little at the thought. Maybe one, but not both. I completely agree with you, while San Jose may have the tools and assets that would help a team like Columbus out, I don’t think it’s worth the cost, right now, for the Sharks to pick up Nash. The old saying “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” comes to mind. I wouldn’t want to lose a lot of scoring depth for one guy, even if it is Nash. I get to watch Nash play a lot as I live in Columbus, and I would love to see him in teal, but just not now for the price. I would also hate to see him leave as well. I’d rather see Carter leave than Nash. He’s been to good of a player here and is the face of the Jackets, but then again I’m not Howson although he needs axed after this season. By the way, I always enjoy your articles. They’re a nice break from my work day, always witty and well written. Keep up the good work sir and GO SHARKS!!
And while you’re at it, make sure to read The Neutral’s recap from the Lightning game.
I totally botched this gameday and posted it early. My apologies.
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 16, 2012 8:52 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
The Neutral's Recap is quite well done.
Well worth the read!
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 17, 2012 12:24 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 6 recs
Stats are for losers, right vancitydan?
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
Nash to LA
It may just be me but I really think Columbus needs to hit a home run w/ this trade. Moving him for Bernier, who has starter potential and Johnson, who is an absolutely horrible defensemen (yes, he puts up pretty good numbers offensively) seems more like a bunt.
They’re trading both Nash and Carter, I’d think they’d want young, good top 6 forwards back as the centerpiece, they’re D seems more or less set.
I also couldn’t agree more about Columbus needing to wait until the offseason to move him, teams will be willing to move more pieces & be able to take on that contract in the summer.
I know that they TOTES don’t have the funds, but I actually think Nash to Phoenix would make a lot of sense. He would generate a lot of interest in the franchise, and he would be a good scoring threat with Whitney and/or Vrbata.
by JBarrow on Feb 16, 2012 10:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Who's going to take a seat?
With Dominic Moore coming on board, who’s going to lose ice time?
At even strength? Probably Torrey Mitchell as Wingels has seemed to find some flow on the second line for the time being.
When Havlat returns, probably Wingels, Mitchell, and Handzus at evens.
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 16, 2012 9:03 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Good question.
Moore is a left handed shot and I don’t know if he can play RW but if he could I would bump Mitchell down to the 4th line, slot Moore next to McGinn and Handzus, and bench McCarthy.
And yeah, McCarthy definitely sits (or goes to Worcester)
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by Mr. Plank on Feb 16, 2012 9:05 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
can mccarthy still be sent down without passing through waivers?
by slotownsharksfan on Feb 16, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
I can't believe Toronto would contemplate trading Grabovski.
Although I guess they don’t want to end up like Dallas last year with Brad Richards and lose him over the summer with nothing in return.
Grabovski wants like $5M to resign.
Under no circumstances is he worth $5M. Leafs probably know this. I think he’ll be traded, but they’ll want roster players in return.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Hope For Moore Than This, Especially Some Scoring
I hope this trade is happening to set up another trade. This team needs offense desperately, if they want any chance in the playoffs against a Vancouver or Detroit.
Moore has the point totals for right now that most 3rd liners end the year at, and last year had a career season of 18 goals and 14 assists in the Lightning’s fantastic season. If he isn’t slotted onto the 2nd I think he’ll mesh really well with Handzus tbh, since Mitchell just really seems the odd man out on that line, and slotting in Moore could stabilize it into a really good depth line.
With Mike Moore and Dominic Moore
us Sharks fans will be able to make some more Moore jokes.
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This is slightly Moore-onic. I’ll stop until toMoore-ow Moore-ning.
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by idunno723 on Feb 16, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m a little Mooretified at the possibility that you may not know when to stop.
I would rather be happy than right any day.
by SouthBayernMunchen on Feb 17, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Defensemen thoughts
I suspect Vandermeer will be in the DEFENSIVE lineup tomorrow, but I’d like to see TM use him more often and rotate the D-men. Murray is so physical, I think the team would be better served (in the playoffs) if he got to sit more often during the regular season. Boyle too.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 16, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Is it you?
O:
[Conspiracy]
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Does anyone else think
Dominic Moore kind of looks like Scott Niedermayer? He also plays a lot like Manny Malhotra (speedy center who’s terrific in the dot and good enough defensively that he can drive the play forward even when deployed in tough situations) so maybe he should wear #27.
The Sharks need NHL'ers not AHL'ers
Once the Sharks find players to replace Ferreiro, Wingels, McCarthy and maybe even Desjardin. I do like Desi’s game, but I think Doug should look for some experience.
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When everyone is healthy, after this trade, Ferriero, WIngels, and McCarthy are already replaced. Desjardins has been amazing, and if the Sharks bench him, I will lose my shit. Him and Winchester have given us a 4th line that’s actually somewhat dangerous and drives play the right way. You don’t mess with that.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 16, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. I will lose my shit if Wingels is benched. That kid is the real deal and deserves a spot on this team.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Feb 16, 2012 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, we’ll see if Wingels can keep it up—I’m really starting to like his game, going back to before he was injured—but seriously, THIS is the game after which you suggest bumping him out of the lineup? What more could a person want out of a rookie?
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by Timorous Me on Feb 17, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
i agree
But I want Doug to bring in players to play on the 4th line that TMac trusts on the ice at anytime. TMac has moments when he benches the 4th line, and then he wastes 3 bodies. I want to see 4 solid lines that TMac trusts at any point of the game.
Bottom 2 lines wish list
3rd:
McGinn, Handzus, Doan/Morrow/Ruutu
4th:
Winchester, Moore, Moen
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Why in the WORLD would Doan be on the 3rd line?
Why would we give the huge asking price to put a top-line player on the third line? Are you fucking high?
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
He wants Moen instead of Desi on the 4th, so yes I think that would be the case.
There is no justification that “experience” trumps everything. If that was the case, then Stamkos, who is only 22, wouldn’t be the player he is. Just because someone hasn’t played in the NHL long doens’t mean that negates the quality of their play to this date. Desi has played very well on the 4th the entire season, justifying minutes that were not present to last year’s 4th. Yet because he’s not “experienced” you want to bench him? Pff, good thing you’re not a coach or GM.
so when TMac benches the 4th line
That’s 3 bodies that Todd doesn’t trust, I’m just saying if Doug could manage somehow to bring in forwards that can play and have Todd’s trust. If the Sharks go into the playoffs and Todd has no trust with his 4th line, then he will burn out his 1st & 2nd lines.
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by ChangoT on Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
so when TMac benches the 4th line
When did this become some sort of nightly occurance?
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Power Checking Line with Doan on it. Its a dream I know!
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by ChangoT on Feb 17, 2012 1:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Not even Mike Milbury could make such an out-and-out retarded roster choice.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
But I want Doug to bring in players to play on the 4th line that TMac trusts on the ice at anytime.
The 4th line has been getting its minutes just fine. They are not what needs addressing.
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But he also thinks we should trade for Doan and put him on the third line.
Wacky tabacky, etc.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
I noticed
I can only deal with so much at one time
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I think the most underrated part of this trade is the 7th rounder we got back from Tampa Bay. Doug Wilson is MAGIC with 7th round picks. We have everyone right where we want them now…
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 16, 2012 11:05 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
"And with the 7th pick, the San Jose Sharks pick Mike Frubbenheimer."
“You haven’t heard of him, but he’ll put of Cheechoo-era Thornton numbers in his rookie season.”
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
We'll find out soon enough
what else DW has up his sleeve, or on the other end of his 3 phones.
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I wish.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
... Not sure if want.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
DGB has to do the Bieber Grabovski song he hinted at during his Reimer song last year.
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Niemi , Mitchell, 2nd round pick
KANE
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
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OR MILLER
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 17, 2012 3:30 AM PST up reply actions
That would be the greatest trade of all time.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 17, 2012 6:08 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I'd do it.
In a heartbeat.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Feb 17, 2012 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
We have to consider the possibility that Moore was the deadline move
I would rather be happy than right any day.
by SouthBayernMunchen on Feb 17, 2012 9:05 AM PST reply actions
I'm beginning to think you're 13.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I’d like something more than that, but I’d rather have this then trading the farm for Nash.
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Carolina
It looks like it’s going to be back up vs. back up tonight as Justin Peters should be getting the start for Carolina.
The Sharks need to bring their A game tonight, Carolina seems to play their best against the better teams in the league.
It also sounds like Murray is out for tonight, the Sharks will need to tighten up their D a lot.
I imagine we'll see Vandermeer out there tonight
But if Demers is ready (sounds like he’s close), I’d prefer to see him out there, paired with White. I’ve liked what I’ve seen of Braun playing the left side with Burns. And next season, I really feel either Braun or Demers should be paired with Burns—they’ll both need to be in the lineup, and it’s time to start minimizing Murray’s minutes.
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Murray
I think Murray’s physical play takes a tremendous toll on him. I’d like to see him and the other defensemen (especially Burns, Boyle and Vlassic) take turns as healthy scratches down the stretch. I’m talking about two or three games each. I think everyone would be sharper come playoff time.
Griess is more of a 1b when Niemi posts a .769 save %.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Actually
If we’re just going to go by yesterdays game, Greiss is a #1 period…good thing 1 game doesn’t make a goalie.
Nemo has been struggling / inconsistent for about 6 or 7 games now, he needs to reset his mind and figure out how to get his confidence back.
Niemi
I’m glad you brought him up, because I was just going to call him out for his very poor play of late. Here are his numbers:
Lost 4 of last 5 games.
Feb 4 @ PHO, L 3-5, GAA = 4.16, SV% .826
Feb 8 @ CGY, L 3-4, GAA = 4.13, SV% .889
Feb 10 @ CHI, W 5-3, GAA = 3.01, SV% .909
Feb 12 @ STL, L 0-3, GAA = 2.01, SV% .926
Feb 16 @ TAM, OTL 5-6, GAA = 5.60, SV% .760 (his worst effort of the season)
So even if we trade for Nash it’s not going to matter if our goaltending is this bad. I think it’s time to let Greiss have a few games, especially if he does well tonight ( won 4 of last 5). Also, why not bring Nitty back up and go with all 3 guys and let the hot goalie carry the load? Clearly Niemi has lost his way and unless he can get it back ( I hope he can?) it’s going to be a shorter playoff run than any of us would wish for.
Niitty
He will never play another game in teal, period.
Niemi was actually quite good in the St. Louis game, I thought that may be a slump buster game for him.
I have very little doubt Niemi won’t get back to form, but now is as good a time as any to let Greiss get a couple of starts, even though he hasn’t exactly been great in his last two starts either (though they were both wins).
by milanahalek on Feb 17, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
And to be fair
Niemi did have back-to-back shutouts on Jan. 24 and Jan. 31. And he seemed to be trending in the right direction v.s. CHI & STL, but the game last night…That was a stinker!
Niemi is bad...
I mean, even his “hot streaks” will be 5 or 6 games where he averages a .920 SV%. That wouldn’t even be a top 10 FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON if he was able to hold at that level. Niemi, at his best, is an average goaltender. And at his usual, is below average. And right now we’re seeing him at his worst (which is worst in the league bad).
I firmly believe Niemi will be what costs this team a real shot at the Cup. I really wish McL and Co. would give Greiss a real shot…especially with Niemi slumping even worse than usual right now.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 17, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
That wouldn’t even be a top 10 FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON
There are 30 teams in the league. As long as Niemi’s in the top 20 or so, I’m okay. And if we have a D corps that doesn’t allow many shots, we have space for even more leeway. I’m not worried about Niemi not being a top-flight goalie.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Not ready to give up on him yet
I know you don’t think much of him Zero, but we don’t have anything better, so the Sharks will probably live or die with him in the net. DW decided not to re-sign Nabby and Nitty seems expendable, so it’s either Greiss or Niemi and we both know which one held up the Stanley Cup. You could say Chicago won inspite of his play, but he’s who we have and he will either raise his game come playoff time or we’ll be watching other teams play in the WCF.
I’d still take my chances with Greiss and the extra cap space (assuming we could actually trade Niemi…his contract seems pretty immovable).
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 17, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t he have a stretch last season of about 30 games where his save percentage was over .930 or something?
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by Timorous Me on Feb 17, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
It was around this time last season he carried the team down the stretch to the number two overall seed in the Western Conference. It would be nice if he decided to do that again.
by Briceratops on Feb 17, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Started in January, I think, right? Actually, while I would like that two seed, I wouldn’t complain if Niemi’s hot streak this season starts a little later and runs a little later, too (such as into April, May, and, oh, how about June?).
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by Timorous Me on Feb 17, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Time to ride Greiss for a while. Leave it up to Niemi to play his way back to the starting spot.
by mattcaffeine on Feb 17, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Chicago rode him to a cup.
He has it in him. Just a bad stretch.
by psantangeli on Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Are you the one who said something along the lines of Ferriero is a better player than Havlat after the Healtey for Havlat trade? Or was that someone else?
by milanahalek on Feb 17, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds like something I would say. Especially about Havlat, whom I do not think very highly of.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Feb 17, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not a big Havlat fan...
But how can you expect a player to find his stride when he’s perpetually injured?
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Nothing to do w/ Havlat’s injury history or anything…Havlat is an extremely talented hockey player, yes, it sucks he’s hurt but that doesn’t take away from his talent level.
Ferriero on the other hand, is a borderline NHLer – there’s really no comparison between the two.
That's what I'm saying.
The guy’s injured, he hasn’t even had the chance to impress Zero.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Like Niemi – there is nothing short of winning the Sharks a cup that will impress Zero when it comes to Havlat…he/she didn’t like Havlat even before the trade was made.
TBQH, I don't think Havlat is AMAZING...
But he’s a legitimate second-line guy, without question.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Stunning analysis
When Niemi is on a good streak he puts up good numbers and when Niemi is on a bad streak he puts up bad numbers.
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Stunning recap.
Obvious information is obviously obvious information.
:D
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Niemi's SV% will always suffer from our low Shots Against
If this was last season first half, I would believe that Niemi was still a liability. The body of his work since about December last season says otherwise.
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Over reacting guys
It happens to every goalie almost every year, he will be fine I assure you, he justs needs to get more engaged,
D in Calgary and Chicago was suspect
And TB was just awful.
There’s no reason to believe Niemi has lost his way. He’s just going through a rough patch. Also, Colin White has been seeing regular ice time. This is bad for our Goals Against.
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Think we can upgrade on D and offload him for a 5th-7th?
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Offloading him for a 7th WOULD be an upgrade
But the D won’t look much better until Demers is healthy and finds his game again. I wouldn’t panic on a deal just yet.
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Probably Not
He has a NTC – and I know how much people think he sucks, but unfortunately, he’s the best option between him, Vandy and Demers (based on the entire season using adv stats).
He just needs to see #6 minutes at ES and not used on the PK, that’s where he’s a mess.
I’m guessing Vandy gets in tonight, just hope he has a good game and stay in the line up.
Nash for Stalock?
Geez, I shudder at the possibility of that even coming to mind.
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Nash thoughts
I think a lot of people have things exactly wrong on Nash. No way CBJ is looking for a goalie as the big piece of this deal. Too unreliable, too hard to predict. They just went through an epic disappointment with Mason, who looked like the real deal, but wasn’t. They’d be nuts to trade their biggest asset for something that flakey.
They are going to be looking for a cast of young players to fill out the roster. Pavs and Demers, plus a forward and goalie prospect is far more likely.
A lot of it also depends on Rick Nash. He is in the drivers seat here. He’s the face fo the franchise. If he leaves pissed off, it could kill the franchise for years. They want him to happily move on with the blessing of the team. Everybody has to be friends. And he knows Thornton.
Those two things put SJ solidly in the running.
Any way you want to sugar coat it – that’s not a good trade for the Sharks.
Nash gave a list of teams he’d accept a trade to so no matter where he ends up, it’ll be a team he’s ‘happy’ to go to. Considering management went to him and said they want to trade him, there is no way this split will be all sunshine and roses.
by milanahalek on Feb 17, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I want to see Nash to go to Toronto.
Don’t want him on the Sharks. Anything we trade will be a lateral move, and it makes no sense for the franchise.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
True, but we have no idea how long the list is. Could be only 2 or 3 teams.
by psantangeli on Feb 17, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, we do. It’s been reported in multiple places there’s 5 teams on his list…a couple of other reports said it could be up to 10, but I think it’s safe to assume there’s 5 teams he’ll go to.
by milanahalek on Feb 17, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
To trade away your future in Couture and your best younger players like Pavs, would set this team back for years. It will already be bad enough when Jumbo and Patty retire. I’m fine without Nash on the Sharks. At some point you need to build and grow your team through the draft (IMO).
Uhmm... Nash is only 27.
And is a better player than either of those guys.
by psantangeli on Feb 17, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
He's not nearly as valuable due to how much cap he eats though.
by Briceratops on Feb 17, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Quality has a price. Personally I would love to see Pass-first Thornton and Shoot-first Nash on the same line. THAT would be a line to fear, and might just be a better pairing than the Sedin’s.
It’s an opportunity that doesn’t come around often.
by psantangeli on Feb 17, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Yet he costs more than Pavs and Couture combined, which makes him less valuable. I’m not saying he isn’t an elite player, but Pavs and Couture are way to valuable to this team to part with either one.
by Briceratops on Feb 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
We already tried the Sniper for Joe scenario with Heatley
Is Nash significantly better than Heatley? Because he’s for damn sure more expensive, and we were willing to offload him because of that Cap Hit.
And trading away playmaking 2 way centers for wingers who are largely one dimensional is never good business sense.
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If Columbus was dumb enough (which is certainly possible)
to trade him based on something around Clowe and Murray, with picks/prospects TBD, I’d jump at it.
Other then that, nyet.
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I'd consider that
And then I’d remember Nash’s Cap Hit is $7.8M for another what, 6 years? Not worth it.
I think people forget that just because the cap keeps going up doesn’t mean we’re going to spend to it every season.
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Our cap situation is almost wide open after 2014, so long deals aren't a killer if you think
they’re going to spend near the cap until Thornton/Marleau/Boyle expire.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Nash sets a pretty bad internal price structure though
Any contracts that we hand out to anyone coming in are going to be examined relative to his. It severely hampers our ability to keep prices down.
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The problem with that
Is that it’s fine for the cap this year, but not next year or the year after…all Nash does is replace Clowe, then you have to replace Murray and still fill out a 22 man roster (they’d need about 9 players) with less than 6.5mil in cap space.
They’d still have to dump salary over the summer, think Pavelski, Boyle, Vlasic (as Marleau, JT, Havlat, Zus all have NTC/NMC’s) – still worth it?
I mentioned in the original thread where it came up
that any trade for Nash now probably means Boyle gets moved this upcoming summer when his NTC copies Heatley’s with the 8 teams he can block. You’re then gambling on Burns/Braun/Vlasic/Demers being a solid top 4 and filling out a bottom 3/4 cheaply.
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Trading Boyle
Would be a giant mistake…if the beginning of the season w/ him playing on a broken foot (as well as the 1 game he missed) doesn’t convince people how unbelievable important he is to the Sharks, I would hope his almost PPG playoff record w/ the Sharks would.
Yup
Freaking out over Boyle earlier this season was one of my greatest mistakes as a Sharks fan. We go as far as he takes us.
But we'll still never forget that own goal in Colorado. :P
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not certain it's the "right" move
but it’s something I can see Wilson doing in line with attempting to keep the team competitive long term (essentially moving 36 y/o star for 27 y/o star) It gives you a younger “star” core of Burns/Nash/Pavs/Couture for the post 2014 era in San Jose.
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Isn't Bernier the best goalie 'prospect' in the league though?
So if htey get Bernier and Johnson that might not be that bad of a trade.
by Briceratops on Feb 17, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
If Bernier is a "prospect", then so is Rask, and Rask outclasses the guy by a mile.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Schneider isn't as good, because he was developed by Vancouver.
AKA, the evil empire.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Berneir is still an unknown and Johnson is just another Wiz…it would be a horrible trade for Columbus.
by milanahalek on Feb 17, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
I would be so upset if they sent Nash to L.A. with Bernier as the centerpiece of that deal. No way—I seriously hope even Columbus isn’t stupid enough to do that (and you have to hope that being burned by Mason and his deal is enough to give them serious pause).
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by Timorous Me on Feb 17, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Besides Niemi
getting his shit together. I want to see the team push players off the puck in the defensive zone more when the team doesn’t have the momentum or the other team is cycling well. Like how they played in their last game against CHI. Instead of playing zone looking and just trying to use their sticks to get the puck back before getting burned. Can’t give offensive teams that much time to figure out what they want to do. It’s like watching Thorton play for the other team sometimes.
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by raphelo on Feb 17, 2012 10:29 AM PST via mobile reply actions
i want 2 c nash go 2 torbnsvdj
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 10:29 AM PST reply actions 7 recs
Please delete this. My friend was being an idiot in class and typing bullshit.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
I hope the weather's nice up in torbnsvdj.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Wait, so Torbnsvdj got a team?
Harftord, Quebec, Toronto, Kansas City, Seattle, Portland and Hamilton are going to be pissed!
And those Torbnsvdj fans are jerks
I hear they protested against hiring a coach that didn’t speak Gibberish.
I would rather be happy than right any day.
by SouthBayernMunchen on Feb 17, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Why does this have 7 recs? You people have problems.
Never change. :’D
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Since when was the Ian White trade a conditional one? The wiki page for the 2012 has already been updated with the results of the Moore trade but it still has the Shark’s own pick as Carolina’s.
You guys sure that the Sharks still have a 2nd?
wrong White
I believe the second we still have is a compensation pick for not resigning Patrick White we acquired in that awesome Errhoff to Vancouver deal. It is also the 55th overall pick and does not shift based on the end of season standings.
http://www.prosportstransactions.com/hockey/DraftTrades/Years/2012.htm
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by jMoneyBrah on Feb 17, 2012 11:42 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah. I’m glad we’re finally getting something out of that awful trade (I don’t care if it was necessary to get Heatley—we really got our asses handed to us by a conference rival).
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by Timorous Me on Feb 17, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
And pretty rare. Sounds more common in goalies without neck protectors. I haven’t been able to find much clear info on it (as to recovery time).
by psantangeli on Feb 17, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Look here...
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/865277-overview#a0101
But I didn’t really find anything about recovery time either.
And what’s the advice (Murray’s grandfather, Lars [Lasse] Bjorn) gives him?
"Hit more people."
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Is this the injury to Murray?
Where did you read an update?
And what’s the advice (Murray’s grandfather, Lars [Lasse] Bjorn) gives him?
"Hit more people."
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I MUST FIND HIM AND PUT ON MITTENS SO HE DOESNT EAT MY FINGERS
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
if he's out here 'til March 8th, it will be my mission to grow my moustache out and eat Doritos Tacos with him on cam.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 17, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Hal Gill heading to Nashville
Predators also get a conditional 5th round pick in exchange for Blake Geoffrion and a 2nd round pick.
Gill is very good shorthanded, but I think he’s been sliding 5 on 5 lately—so while it’s a solid addition for the Predators, I’m not much more worried about them than before.
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Moore
He’s going to playing 3rd line center tonight between Mitchell & McGinn – gotta say, I’m a little excited to see what that line can do.
I’m guessing McCarthy comes out of the line up and Zus centers Winchester & Desi.
So Zues gets the demotion?
Weird. Well I hope that they allow the fourth line to play around ten minutes.
If nothing else
having less 5v5 minutes gives Handzus more energy to play shorthanded. With the integration of Moore into the system, that’s two things working to keep Pavs, Marleau, Jumbo and Cooch rested. I like two things.
I do too
Lets not all forget that Havlat will still return , and much unlike the opinions of most , I think he will impress and make us deadly from top to bottom at the perfect time
Summary of reality...
Nash is an impossibility. The Sharks made their move with Dominic Moore. With what was available out there, and with what the Sharks required, this is a move that may or may not have made them better; although to the degrees it improves their overall chances at accomplishing something special this year – sorry, but no, Dominic Moore is not going to help bring the Stanley Cup to San Jose. Judging from this continuing debacle of a road trip (two losses in three games while allowing twelve goals in the three games, and the only win coming against an AHL goaltender at that) it is going to take a lot more depth than yet another mediocre journeyman coming into the cluster of average third and fourth line forwards that the Sharks are laden with already. For the Sharks to make up for their deficiencies, which seems to be spreading into the goaltending as well, the Sharks did need a Nash type player (perhaps a couple of ‘em) without losing anything more at the same time – and that is impossible.
As for the fans thinking ’well that is alright because Havlat is going to return, and this time he’ll be different!" – well okay, you go on hoping, because he played atrocious until his body of glass shattered once again. Havlat will return just in time for another injury is the best case scenario I reckon.
The Sharks lost a game lost night that a Detroit or St Louis team would not have. That is the difference between San Jose and the elite teams right now.
For contender: See how St. Louis handles a weak eastern conference opponent – Blues five, Islanders one.
For currently struggling team: See how San Jose handles a weak eastern conference opponent – Sharks five, ’Bolts six.
That is the reality of this dreaded situation for us fans. Anyway, the Sharks should exemplify the desperation of the situation more eloquently tonight with their game against Carolina tonight.
‘Canes 3 Sharks 1
(I have a feeling the Sharks used up all their offensive guile in last night’s loss.)
This ‘knee-jerk’ poster will be watching the game tonight by way of my ordered TV sports-package, and we’ll all see what’s what at the end, eh?
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Why do you only post about how shit the Sharks are?
Bud, you really oughta rethink what team you cheer for if you hate the Sharks this much.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
February 14, 2012
Columbus Blue Jackets 2, St. Louis Blues 1
Now go crawl back into your hole until the next Sharks loss where you can whine some more.
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Jeez...
Touchy much? I post win or lose. I am not a troll, nor am I a fair-weather fan. If the Sharks are losing more often than they should, it certainly is not my fault. Sorry I can’t put on blinders and pretend all is okay, when it is apparently (at least to me?) not?
Furthermore, why such hostility? For all my harsh crticism, I have never taken to insulting personally any users, I only post my opinion, I only vent my frustration and I thought a San Jose Sharks message board was the place to do it, if I understand correctly?
I represent the San Jose Sharks in Toronto, guys, win or lose, regardless of my rants, I wear the teal (both constant cap and occasional jersey) proudly… so I do not know how I am offending so many so frequently?
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
I am not a troll, nor am I a fair-weather fan
Debatable, to say the very lest.
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously? to say the very least?
Because of the overwhelming evidence right?
My terrible number of posts (USUALLY one per game or article), and the fact that I ‘both’ praise the Sharks when they do well, and deride them when they sometimes, simply put, suck?
The fact that I never have insulted anyone personally, respecting everyone enough to keep the issues about the team and the organization, regardless if you ‘diagree’ with my assessment or not?
You seem like a fine judgemental sort – that is, to say the least, without stooping to your current level of the typical ‘hide behind the screen’ and insult people. Also, judging from your little photo-square beside your post… I think I quite understand why you feel compelled to use the computer screen to hide behind while insulting people, you were never exactly an enforcer in your days, eh? To say the least. = )
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You are, I presume...
living currently in Toronto such as myself, Evil? You know we could cut through such trivial, disagreeable posts… I assume you are a Sharks fanatic, and will be attending the game upcoming in Toronto? Perhaps if we met in person, you see that I have my Thornton road black jersey and teal Sharks cap, and see that I have paid some decent money for decent hockey tickets, you may feel compelled to eat your ridiculous claim that I am a troll and/or fair-weather fan?
Understand me well – I do not just talk the talk… if you ever felt like expanding your horizons? I am here willing and ready to get to know whoever wants to get to know me well enough to understand or care where I am coming from. I just ask for fair chances, friend.
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It is.
So maybe it is just a nightmare, the Sharks can always prove my ramblings wrong of course… and paradoxically (or is it more ironically?) I hope they do.
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That not true at all, Evil -
After the Washington game, I praised their effort. I praised their efforts a couple other times as well, when I actually thought they put urgency into their victories.
I just thought heading into Detroit for Sunday, they needed to defeat such low-scale teams such as Tampa and Carolina – they cannot give up any points against these teams and want to be considered serious contenders! Especially giving up SIX against the third last place team in the EASTERN conference!
Sorry if it seems like constant bitterness, but think about it – if the Sharks were living up to their potential, I wouldn’t have to post anything bitter at all, now would I? That speaks about the kind of downward turn of late in my opinion, and being a true fan who has suffered many letdowns with San Jose having awesome teams throughout the years, I am not going to sit by like a ‘Leafs’ fan and ‘accept’ when a team (in my view) is not playing as they should be, could be – with urgency that reaches their full potential.
I would be extremely happy tonight if the Sharks won 5 – 0 and I was forced to look like a complete idiot – I would rather be wrong and no nothing about hockey than the Sharks miss out on winning the Cup finally, and I thought I always established that fact clearly in my posts. Maybe I haven’t, I don’t know, but I am a Sharks fan in Toronto, and it gets quite frustrating when the biased eastern seaboard media seems to be proven right all the time, not by way of fact, but way of results that should have been different if San Jose just put their hearts more on the line – selling your soul is likely the option right? Sell some souls damn it! Do something, … wait what the hell am I talking about?
Anyway, I am a Sharks fan. I complain when they give up 12 goals in three games, and lose two of three when starting a hell of a long road trip… if they won three of three, I would have been among the first posters congratulating and all that, and been quite happy.
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Are you this Buttercrunch person I've been hearing so much about?
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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 17, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think the posts are long enough for that.
And they usually IP check and ban good old BC.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Nope.
And there’s no need to keep baiting.
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Baiting?
If I did not understand any better, that means that I am someone who should be ignored or not ‘pushed into’ posting any further? I do not know exactly, but I rather enjoy interacting with other Sharks fans, so I do not know that a ‘debate’ should be defined as ‘baiting’ for me exclusively?
I am rather quite confused by such reactions, if most of you would rather not have me post anymore amongst you folks – certainly I do not need to be told twice, just let me know.
I am just rather mystified as to why I elicit such responses?
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
Okay off to watch the game!
Briceratops, and Elvis, I consider you two to be two the most reasonable and inteligent posters on this thing, so I apprecieat every post and hopefully, with time, everyone can just find a nice comfortable frequency to debate at.
Over and out, and Go Sharks Go!
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
Who the hell is Buttercrunch???
Seriously, am I that bad that I have been compared to someone who has actually earned a banning???
Please, this is getting quite ridiculous!
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
It is
What’s also getting ridiculous is you not using the reply function.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
oh sorry?
Is this the correct way then?
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
Okay so yeah, sorry
I was getting a little worked up, getting compared to trolls and such who are banned?
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
Definitely out of line
You might be a bit fatalistic, but you are no troll.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
lol
Yes, I have been called that in the non-virtual world too! ‘melodramatic’, ‘fatalistic’, .. ‘perpetual panick-attack syndrome with a touch of bipolarism’ Yes, that is quite alright, thank you for the defense!
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
Perfect
And my apologies for the snark. It was just too perfect to pass up. Keep on postin’!
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
Alright...
At any rate, I apologize to anyone who is pissed at my posts, I certainly did not want to make anyone ‘angry’, I was just hoping to have my points heard, even debated… you know how it is, you feel a certain way, and hope that it is not – I wanted to be convinced as to why my throughts are WRONG concerning certain aspects of this season.
We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?
Sharks look like they are still in Florida
taking a nice vacation
IM HBACK
BAR DIDNT HAVE THE GAME
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 17, 2012 5:57 PM PST reply actions
WOO DRUNK GOLG MOJO GETS US GOING
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Feb 17, 2012 6:01 PM PST reply actions

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