Sharks fail to score one Moore time, fall 3-2

by mymclife on Feb 17, 2012 8:36 PM PST in Sharks Game Recaps

Justin Peters became the first Carolina goalie aside from starter Cam Ward to win in 41 games as the Carolina Hurricanes beat the San Jose Sharks 3-2 in a game that wasn't even that close until the third period.

The Sharks were on a second half of a back-to-back and, due to some San Francisco-like fog, were stuck traveling to Raleigh the day of the game. While that's no excuse for professionals, it certainly did not help the Sharks any, and travel fatigue was readily apparent throughout most of the first and the entire second period.

It was the first period that ultimately killed the Sharks, even though they were able to even up the score later on. They fell behind early after Jeff Skinner banked a pass off of Dan Boyle's skate that ended up behind a helpless Thomas Greiss. Just three minutes later, the other 19-year-old on the Hurricanes Justin Faulk made it 2-0 as he converted a pretty tic-tac-toe passing play with Jamie McGinn in the box for roughing.

In a "let's all feel old" moment of the day, Jeff Skinner and Justin Faulk have never been alive during a time when the San Jose Sharks did not exist. Their combined age also makes them younger than Teemu Selanne, Nicklas Lidstrom, Johan Hedberg, Jaromir Jagr and Ray Whitney. I am older than they are.

Now that we all feel good and creaky, let's get back to hockey. The Hurricanes got their second power play of the night after Greiss was whistled for a rare goalie hook, but failed to capitalize. A successful kill spurred the Sharks, giving them the most offensive pressure of the game thus far. Torrey Mitchell had a great chance at one of his signature highlight reel goals, but fanned on the puck.

The second period can be summed up thusly:

One of the highlights of the game was Tommy Wingels, who has been proving his Top Six capabilities the past few games and only strengthened his case tonight. He was one of the most noticeable Sharks on the ice, and ended up drawing both Hurricanes penalties (albeit one was cancelled out by a somewhat questionable embellishment call on Wingels). In particular he was doing well on a line with his fellow former Worcester Sharks Logan Couture and Jamie McGinn.

But the real highlight of the game was the Shark who was playing his first game in teal (stripes count, I swear), Dominic Moore. Despite his lack of time on the power play or penalty kill due to his unfamiliarity with Todd McLellan's system, it was immediately apparent what he was brought on for. He won his first two faceoffs and was flying around the ice all night. He also brings to the Sharks the most pun opportunities this side of Linsanity.

Moore contributed to both of the Sharks' goals, even if one contribution didn't show up on the scoresheet. The first goal, and the catalyst for what ended up being a very strong third period for the Sharks, had Moore stand in front of the net as Dan Boyle gathered the puck up by the blue line and shoot it just past Peters to cut the deficit to one. Minutes later, he feeds former Wild teammate Brent Burns from behind the net with a perfect pass. Burns shoots it short side and the game is tied.

However, with seven minutes left in the game, Jussi Jokinen deflects a Jamie McBain shot past Greiss that ended up as the final goal of the game. It was the only goal that Greiss could have stopped of the three he allowed, although he was screened and had to deal with a deflection.

The Sharks attempted to make up for their lackluster play in the first two frames in the final five minutes, with scoring chance after scoring chance. Patrick Marleau almost scored into a wide-open net after setting the puck down from a Dan Boyle rebound, but Peters lunged over and made a highlight reel save.

In the "Heartbreaker of the Night" category, Joe Thornton was on the doorstep with a wide-open net with three seconds left in the game and Peters with no idea where the puck was - and he whiffed. The Sharks captain was visibly cursing himself out after the game.

NOTES: Joe Pavelski with an awesome heads-up play in the third; Jim Vandermeer broke his stick and then had to defend an odd-man rush, so Pavelski alertly gave his stick to Vandermeer from the bench... Jason Demers thinks Patrick Marleau's middle name is "Martha"... Tonight was the first game Brad Winchester missed since joining the Sharks.

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This pretty sums up the Sharks' teamwork tonight

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by Joeface on Feb 17, 2012 8:51 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

Disgusting

Moore looked alright, but I hated the puck handling of everyone else. I feel we don’t have the defensive depth to compete… Colin White and the 3rd pairing is such a liability.

by Calicoasterfreak on Feb 17, 2012 9:28 PM PST reply actions

Welcome to the team, dude.

And that’s all I’ve got to say right now.

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by Auth0r on Feb 17, 2012 9:34 PM PST reply actions 7 recs

Boyle Moore

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by Soloact on Feb 18, 2012 1:29 AM PST up reply actions

Moore Moore Moore

by AstroShark on Feb 17, 2012 9:35 PM PST reply actions

Sorry guys

Dany Heatley=All-star.
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by dfh15 on Feb 17, 2012 9:54 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

How do you do image size restraints?

Dany Heatley=All-star.
"How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?" -Jacques Plante
Randy Hahn: "He's got moves like Jagr."

by dfh15 on Feb 17, 2012 9:55 PM PST up reply actions

So that’s where Marleau was while the Sharks were playing today! Bowling!

by Khaaz on Feb 17, 2012 11:36 PM PST up reply actions

Some things jumped out at me in the box score.

Boyle: 29:39 TOI.

Handzus: 7:21 TOI.

by Briceratops on Feb 18, 2012 12:35 AM PST reply actions

Boyle’s legs are going to be dead by the end of this road trip. Does the coaching staff want him to be running on fumes come April or May?

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by Timorous Me on Feb 18, 2012 12:42 AM PST up reply actions

Not cool, Todd.

Not cool.

"It was good to get banged and give a few bangs." - Jonathan Cheechoo

by CheechYou on Feb 18, 2012 12:48 AM PST up reply actions

ohwell

Maybe its the early morning flight that caused the poor play.

Go Big or Go Home

by ChangoT on Feb 18, 2012 12:52 AM PST via mobile reply actions

Game 56

I have a cold, hopefully getting over it, so I’ll keep it real short:

February Sharkstistics and the Magic#/Tragic#/Potential Points Standings have been updated.

Sharks now 3-4-1 in Feb, with 28 GF – 29 GA

by Soloact on Feb 18, 2012 1:34 AM PST reply actions

Maybe this could

be the turning point for the team? To me I thought the game is one to forget and move on. Two open nets at end, the puck just didn’t go in and they ran out of time. I haven’t seen Thorton mad at himself like that all year. Always looking at the lighter side of things with a smile. Hopefully this was his wake up call to put some pressure on himself and the team. Not that he messed up, but just for the fact that they’re losing points and L.A/PHO aren’t that far behind. Also Tmac seems to be sick of the current play so… who knows who if anyone gets added plus Havlat..? A 3rd seed finish as long as they finish strong is alright. DW is going for a better playoff team anyway. And if the Sharks can beat DET on Sunday… much will be forgiven and it’ll be easier for them to move on, so GO SHARKS and snap their home ice winning streak like the stick on every Sharks jersey.

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by raphelo on Feb 18, 2012 3:00 AM PST via mobile reply actions

Seeing Thornton yell at himself like that gives me hope. I see him entering his “Angry Joe” mode, which in the past has seen him dominate and rip the opponents defense apart. Hopefully this is just another one of those steps along the way that the team can grow and become better from.
Moore looks great out there! Crafty with the puck and isn’t afraid to get to the net for either a shot or a tip. Considering he hasn’t been able to practice with the team yet, I have a feeling he’ll continue to succeed with us.

Looking towards Sunday; it’s going to be a great game! The prospect of the Sharks being able to end Detroit’s epic home win streak makes me even more excited about the game. The Sharks always show up when playing the Wings and I’m guessing they will play their best game of the roadie against them.

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by Pavsisaninja on Feb 18, 2012 6:39 AM PST up reply actions

Am I the only guy who’s completely unconcerned by these losses? Teams lose. Big whoop.

Ultimately, the team just needs to give up fewer goals. That’s it. There’s been a long streak of the Sharks giving up 3 goals, with the Bolts being the lone game where they gave up more (or less). Offense has, thankfully, picked up since the All-Star break.

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by Bockerz on Feb 18, 2012 7:19 AM PST reply actions

No

I’m a tiny bit concerned about the D coverage since the all star break, the Chicago and Washington games aside, as I believe that’s why they’ve been giving up more goals. But I’m not too worried about these losses either.

It would’ve been nice to take 4 points from two Eastern Conf. cellar teams but they didn’t so move on. I said before the trip that if they came back from this trip at .500 and still 1st in the division I’d consider it a sucessful trip.

What does concern me is their rediculous schedule to finish the season. This team needs to be healthy going into the playoffs to have a chance to compete for the cup (like everyone else) and their schedule is going to be very hard on them.

by milanahalek on Feb 18, 2012 7:26 AM PST up reply actions

I agree that the schedule is the big concern for me. While I’m not particularly concerned with these recent losses (at this point in the year, if the problems don’t seem fundamental, they’re probably just in a rut), and I could see this road trip quickly spiraling into a real mess, I am concerned about the team being just totally worn down come April. And I think last night’s game is a great example of how a worn-out team can look out there.

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by Timorous Me on Feb 18, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions

The defense

Needs to figure out how to position themselves better or reposition themselves around the net when they crowd around the goal. A lot of deflections off Shark defenders have been going in their own net lately. I still think a more aggressive style would suit the team better. If not for the fact that a lot of games are gonna start turning into playoff type games. Only thing I can think of is that McL is more afraid of a Niemi rebound then leaving ice open when trying to get the puck back as aggressively possible when the other team has control? Can’t wait to see who DW picks up if anybody towards the end of the month! But regardless of who he gets, this teams success is gonna be in how often and quickly they throw they’re weight around defensively not just in the way they use their sticks to get the puck back and how well Niemi plays. Especially on the Pk, I still blame him for the overall shittiness of the Pk since he’s showed up. Offense is doing well and should be fine.

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by raphelo on Feb 18, 2012 1:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

A lot of deflections off Shark defenders have been going in their own net lately.

Unlucky bounces…they happen to everyone.

There’s a reason they position themselves as they do around the net and having say, Burns & Franzen battling for position right outisde the crease does a whole lot more bad than good most of the time. Everyone wants the team to be more physical, which they can definitely be, but their D zone issues right now don’t have much to do w/ physicality and everything to do w/ their positioning / coverage.

by milanahalek on Feb 18, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions

A few unlucky sure

but way more recently then usual. Most of the ones that go in off of a defenders stick from an opposing players pass I don’t usually consider luck. Team just doesn’t look confident or assertive when teams get a lot of possession. Maybe thinking too much? But I understand what you mean with when and why they need to stay closer to the net

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by raphelo on Feb 18, 2012 6:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

Holy Cow,

If the Sharks take the same perspective on games and slumps such as this, it’s no wonder they do not feel a little more compelled to bring the Cup to San Jose?

A Canadian city would, and usually do not (Toronto is sometimes an exception), put up with joke-performances and write them off as OKAY – because the whole ‘it happens to every other team’ can apply to every aspect of hockey? Come on guys! Yeah, ask St. Louis and Detroit how OFTEN they have lost (lost AT ALL in fact) back to back games to terrible teams (And shut up with examples of random losses to bad teams – St. Louis and Detroit lose how often, especially at home, latey?)? For the San Jose Sharks, February is quickly turning into Jester-on-the-ice month – coming soon to an ice rink near you? See the ‘Second period can be summed up thusly’ for a preview!

Man you guys really do fiddle while Rome is burn’in.

Does the HP Pavilion (grrr. Shark Tank!) play that April Wine song – Oowatanite, everything’ll be alright – like all the time???

We have been swimming these wintry depths for years, succeeding at survival by feeding only upon perennial minnows of sustenance... will we ever get to sink our great white teeth into this so-called Stanely's feast, so that we may finally slay our insatiable hunger in frenzied celebration?

by Deep Waters on Feb 18, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions

Hey Deep,

Which part of the Sharks are you unsatisfied with? Top six forwards, bottom six forwards, power play, penalty kill, goaltending, defense, etc. Perhaps if you were more precise with what you are worried about I could pull up some stats and show that things are not as dire as you are suggesting.

by Briceratops on Feb 18, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions

Of course

There is nothing to worry about and no reason whatsoever to be concerned that this will be another year like all of the others.

I mean, why be concerned that the team got totally outplayed by the last place team in the East for the better part of the game? Or that they lost the night before to the 11th place team in the East while allowing 6 goals?

Why be concerned when you coaching staff sits Winchester (who shows up to play every shift) in the press box while allowing their favorite underachiever Torrey Mitchell to continue to do what he does best – get pushed around, make 1-in-1 million odds against shots on goal from the perimeter, and turn the puck over (exhibit 1 being goal #1)?

Why worry at all that White hasn’t brought depth on defense and that the only thing he appears to be is out of his depth?

Why be negative when it takes the Captain a full 60 minutes to get pissed off?

Why be in any way concerned that a cloak of invisibility surrounded Marleau and Clowe on the night?

Yes, you’re right, all is well. It was just crappy ice that did the Sharks in.

by hit 'em on Feb 18, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions

I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if Mitchell is scratched tomorrow or sometime in the coming week if he doesn’t pick it up (might want his speed and experience in there against the Wings).

Mitchell played only 8:08 last night, second-lowest on the team (behind Handzus, who might be sitting himself once Moore gets accustomed to the PK scheme).

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by Timorous Me on Feb 18, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions

Mitchell is the symptom

and coach decision-making about who to play if the disease. I challenge any Sharks’ fan to dispute that on any given night 8 minutes from Winchester this season has been better than 8 minutes from Mitchell.

Anyway, the team isn’t going to be made or broken by Mitchell’s play, the point I was making was that there are far too many tourists on the roster watching things pass them by with no consequences. Thornton, Marleau, Clowe were all ineffective, and then there’s White…

by hit 'em on Feb 18, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions

Thornton, Marleau, Clowe were all ineffective

Tonight they were ineffective. But there have also been games where they’ve been extremely impressive. That happens…

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by Bockerz on Feb 18, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions

I'm no Mitchell fan

But he starts in the defensive zone a lot more than Winchester does. If Winchester wasn’t getting such sheltered zone starts I’m sure we would be complaining about how he’s on the ice for so many goals like we do with Mitchell.

by Briceratops on Feb 18, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions

Hopfully Tmac is putting him on display

Hoping that Mitchell’s hard work not get chopped will interest somebody in a miraculous package deal. Otherwise he’ll probably be the main scratch once Havlat gets back. I don’t want him as a depth fwd come playoff time.

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by raphelo on Feb 18, 2012 1:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

I recall

A time when Mitchell got called out for falling too much. For the next 5-10 games he was really aggressive, staying on his feet and was executing a great forecheck. That time has long since passed. I was complaining non-stop about mitchell last night and his decision to go back (when there appeared to be room forward) that led to the first goal was absolutely painful. He kept getting knocked off the puck last night and the gif in the article is a perfect example of his season.

Moore is encouraging. Wingels current play is exciting. I think if they can keep it up we will be looking like a much stronger offensive team moving forward. If Havlat returns the way he was playing his last few games prior to injury, we could be quite potent offensively come the playoffs.

by Cloweture on Feb 18, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions

I was being serious, though. I’m stupidly optimistic about this team, and I understand that… but that’s not going to change my viewpoint on this team.

There is nothing to worry about and no reason whatsoever to be concerned that this will be another year like all of the others.

You mean, end without a Stanley Cup? Or in failure, if that’s how you want to look at it? Just like, oh, 29 other teams in the league? I don’t, for one second, buy the “well at least the Nucks made it to the SC Finals” argument. They lost. And so did the Sharks.

On nights, the last placed team in the East is going to play well, and the Sharks are not. Or are you just forgetting the games against Chicago and Washington and considering those an anomaly.

At no point did I say that this loss wasn’t crappy. These last two losses were games that the Sharks should have won. But they didn’t. So… big deal. I just said I wasn’t concerned. And I understand why people are concerned. But I’m not.

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by Bockerz on Feb 18, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions

We thoroughly outplayed both Carolina and Tampa Bay.

I would be concerned if we were the ones getting outshot 2-1. But we weren’t.

by Briceratops on Feb 18, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions

Feel free to remain stupidly optimistic

I think your way of framing your response says all I need to know.

by hit 'em on Feb 18, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions

I think your way of framing your response says all I need to know

Haha… I’m not actually sure what that means in this case.

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by Bockerz on Feb 18, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions

Do you know what month it is?

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by idunno723 on Feb 18, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions

Thank God...

at least one of you sees the reality of this dire situation.

Hit ’em, nicely summed up.

Big Joe should be hungry like the wolf and angry like hell just from the premature endings in previous playoff letdowns alone – not from just getting his and all the Sharks’ asses handed to them by EASTERN conference cellar-dwellers.

By this point, Detroit just cannot wait for number 23. Nothing but BAD things are gunna happen this Sunday.

But don’t worry, TMAC is a rolling stone… and all he’ll ever leave us is alone…?

by Deep Waters on Feb 18, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions

I don’t really understand the deal with so much negativity. The only team that has won less than 1/3 of their games this season is Columbus. The only team to win 2/3 of their games this season is Detroit. Every other team is in between those percentages. To believe that because a team is struggling that they are auto wins is just retarded.

Teams have off nights. It happens. Chicago just ended their 9 game losing streak that included losses to Phoenix, Colorado, and Edmonton. Is Chicago suddenly a garbage team? Carolina, the “cellar-dwellar” has beaten Boston, the defending Cup champs, 4 times this season. Is Boston suddenly a garbage team? They’ve also beaten Chicago and Vancouver in their single meetings. Is Vancouver a shit team because they lost to a “cellar-dwellar”?

It is one thing to have a pessimistic view of the team, but your justifications for your views are really just weak, not to mention predictable. After the first line of all your posts this thread (and any from the last couple days) I could guess who was posting and stopped giving a shit about your opinion, because all you do is doom and gloom without contributing anything to the conversation on either positive or negative sides. All you say is essentially “They lost, they’re shit, not making playoffs”.

I don’t think all is cheery; they should not lose in the manner that they did, with a garbage effort coming out in the first, even if they are on back to backs and tired. I HATE Tmac’s fucking daily line juggling, because it really messes with existing chemistry even if a line is kinda stagnant that night it doesn’t really jump start a lot when it is done EVERY NIGHT.

Yet the team as a whole is still a good one that can compete with the best of them, especially with proper rest and in playoff series where strategies can be adapted to the opposing teams’ styles.

by VVhirlwind on Feb 18, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions

Oh I see the reality of the situation. These past two games sucked.

But I don’t believe that this is how the Sharks will play in the playoffs. Maybe they’ll have a bad game or two… happens to everyone. And it’s not like the Sharks were severely out-played. Their defense was just horrendous.

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by Bockerz on Feb 19, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions

Colin White

If this guy is in the lineup, the Sharks are in big trouble. He is a turnover that ends up in our net, waiting to happen.

by The Sear on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 AM PST reply actions

Scratch White, call up other Moore.

Can’t go wrong with Moore Moore.

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by Evil Stanchion on Feb 18, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs

Less Moore is Moore… I’d rather have Vandermeer in there. Colin White is a waste of a roster space.

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by Bockerz on Feb 18, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions

You bastards

I have Britney’s “Hit me baby one more time” stuck in my head.

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by Kazoonole on Feb 18, 2012 9:24 AM PST reply actions

I like what I’ve seen from Moore, I was surprised at the speed he displayed. From my perspective he looked like a Mitchell with a real hockey brain.

What I don’t understand is the lines that Tmac tried to run with. He started the usual Couture/Clowe/Wingels group and Moore/McGinn/Mitchell, but then when that wasn’t working out he gave Clowe a try with Mitchell and Moore and that seemed to click a bit with moore and clowe. But then the resulting Wingels/Couture/McGinn group disappeared off the map in terms of effectiveness, and the rest of the game I was just waiting for Tmac to put Couture/Clowe/Moore together but it never happened. I was really surprised to not even see Handzus paired with Moore at all.

What I want to see for vs Detroit is either a Couture/Clowe/Moore 2nd and Handzus/McGinn/Ferriero 3rd, or a Couture/Clowe/Wingels 2nd and Handzus/McGinn/Moore 3rd.

I think Moore would give the zus/ginner pairing what Mitchell is lacking, and Couture would give the Moore/Clowe synergy that seemed to have developed the playmaking to go with their positional play.

by VVhirlwind on Feb 18, 2012 9:42 PM PST reply actions

I don't understand

What I don’t understand is the lines that Tmac tried to run with

Why TMC hasn’t been able to figure out what works a long time ago. He’s the Coach, he should know the talent, the potential, and what styles of play work with what combinations. I don’t like the way he scrambles from game to game “trying to find combinations that work”.

by Soloact on Feb 19, 2012 1:13 AM PST up reply actions

Lines

What fans need to understand is the ONLY thing McLellan has control over during a game is match ups & ice time…the Sharks flat out sucked in the beginning of the game. Wingels & Moore were about the only two guys actually skating. He can scream and yell and tell them what he wants them to do, but that only gets him so far.

When he juggles his lines what he’s looking for is a spark, 3 players that want the ice time & work for it. If the team would come out skating hard and still end up down 2, chances are he doesn’t put the lines in a blender like that.

I have absolutely no problem with his line juggling – these guys need to be able to play w/ anyone and be effective. Moore & Wingels are a prime examples – they never changed their game regardless of where they were playing.

by milanahalek on Feb 19, 2012 7:08 AM PST up reply actions

If he doesn’t line juggle and the Sharks struggle, he’ll get yelled at for not mixing things up!!

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by idunno723 on Feb 19, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions

That's my point

…these guys need to be able to play w/ anyone and be effective..

There shouldn’t have to be juggling just to try to find something that works.

by Soloact on Feb 19, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions

You totally missed my point. He has set lines for that he would like to use, problem is more often than not only about 3 or 4 forwards are working / skating and it’s not very often those 3 or 4 guys are on the same line.

It’s his job to win hockey games, if he sees Wingels or Desi are skating hard and making things happen but Ferriero isn’t, he’ll move them around. It’s really not all that uncommon for coaches to do that when their teams fall behind and don’t look like they’re wokring hard enough to get back into the game.

by milanahalek on Feb 19, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions